Talk:Tribe (Native American)/Archive 1

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why is the 2nd passage calling the people native to the americas Indians. "An Indian tribe" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.244.137.196 (talk) 14:35, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

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i am looking up all of the tribes of the indians if there is any way possible can you help me. i am really trying to find out about aberham. he overthrowed the goverment of the united states. he also joined the indians and fought aginst the united states for the freedom of the slaves and indians, the in peace he went out west and died. he joined all of the indian tribes together and they named him prophet aberham.(166.214.84.17 17:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)).

Structure of the American Native Tribe

I looked here, at Native Americans in the United States, and at Tribalism without really finding any information on what "jobs" or "positions" comprise a tribe. I'm sure each tribe is different, but certainly there must be some similarities between the hierarchies of tribes. For example: scouts, hunters, weavers, a medicine man, a chief, etc. I propose this idea as a possible expansion section within this article. (I don't think it would need to be its own article.) – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 07:31, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

USPOV a problem

I changed the intro, with its US-flavoured language/perspective, but the article remains written from the US Point of View and also in US contexts only; "legal definition" for "tribe" in North America only applies in the US, not in Canada or Mexico, where other terms are used; also the lead said "Native american" instead of "Indian tribe", which was just plain wrong according to WP:MOS. There may be legal designations of tribes - los tribus or os tribus - in Latin America but at present I'm unaware of them. Here's me edit comment for those that missed it when I changedd the intro:

de-USPOV'ing the lead, which was really irksome; this article confuses US contexts with other New World Indian tribes/peoples and also focuses on the US meaning of "tribe"

I'm always bothered by the "what it means in the US is what it should mean everywhere" attitude of many contributors, and some admins/editors. This is not US-pedia, it is Wikipedia. Native American name controversy and Native American also reduplicate a lot of the content here; if anything this article/title should maybe rediret to Native Aemrican name controversy, except that "Indian tribe in the US is a legal designation, meaning what "First Nation" or "band" does in Canada; but its ethnographic sense is very different, i.e. legal tribes in ths US often contain several ethnographic tribes. There's a big difference and this article, if it survives, should make that clear; also I removed Nippissing and a lot of strange-looking redlinks from the "well-known tribes" section, which as it is American-flavoured should not have listed a people who don't even exist in the United States....Skookum1 (talk) 18:36, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I second this. eg. Native-Americans in South-America's Suriname are pretty recognized by the state of Suriname in a very different way, for one this country has a serious jungle where the law of the state is un-executable and the state knows this, therefor applying different rules for those living in junglw towns. Yet I don't find much info in them or any other smaller tribes and system due to the US-POVness. 77.250.166.160 (talk) 02:54, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

There would be no point in this article if it were globalized, as it would merely become a content fork. I'm not sure there's much reason for it regardless, but I've moved it to make it clear it deals exclusively w the situation in the US. — kwami (talk) 21:56, 1 January 2011 (UTC)