Talk:Typhoon Nat (1991)

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by BlueMoonset talk 01:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Major issues with article and nominator is blocked from DYK participation for next several months; closing as unsuccessful.

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The track of Typhoon Nat

... that 1991's Typhoon Nat was described as having a "most unusual" track (pictured)?

Source: Hong Kong Government

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/50 YouTubers Fight for $1,000,000

Converted from a redirect by TheNuggeteer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 12:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - The section titled Analysis is missing an inline citation.
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - The hook is located under Analysis, which contains no inline citations.
Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The above issues need to be addressed. Also, the article calls the track "erratic," which makes more sense than "erroneous," which is the word the hook uses. Ergo Sum 16:01, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheNuggeteer: Please address the above concerns. Z1720 (talk) 23:37, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ergo Sum: Done. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 00:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheNuggeteer: Thanks for adding the inline citation. However, since that is a 96 page PDF, there should be citations to specific pages at each inline use, for example, using {{Sfn}}. I did a quick control-F search in that PDF and "erratic" does not come up, so citation to a specific page is necessary. Ergo Sum 01:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Used {{rp}} instead. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 02:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ergo Sum: Hello? 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 11:56, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Page citation is good. However, unless I am still missing it on page 44, I do not see the words "random" or "erratic" as descriptions of the typhoon's movement. I see "most unusual," which is not the same thing as either of those words. Ergo Sum 13:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Changed the hook to fit the words. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 13:09, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The parts of the article that support the hook still say "erratic" and "random." Once those are corrected, the hook will be ready to go. Ergo Sum 13:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheNuggeteer: Please address the above.--Laun chba ller 10:59, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer and Ergo Sum: Done. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 11:47, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ready to go now. Ergo Sum 13:09, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As noted at WT:DYK#Typhoon Nat (1991), the article and infobox contradict each other, the article has clear inaccuracies, and is grossly inadequate coverage for a 19-day tropical cyclone, in my opinion failing WP:DYKCOMPLETE. I've given this a "Maybe" icon rather than rejecting it outright in case someone wants to do a significant expansion to adequately cover its rise and fall and rise and fall, but since the nominator cannot participate at DYK for several months, action would be needed in the next few days if this is to remain active. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:29, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- It's been three days, and no one has expressed any interest in doing the significant work needed for this article meet DYK standards. Marking for closure as unsuccessful. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:42, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]