Talk:Vuno/Archive 1

Archive 1

Pronunciation

In Greek, the stress is on the penultimate, not ultimate syllable, which is a quirk of the local Greek dialect. It would be nice if some of the people who edit this article actually read the sources instead of being disruptive. Athenean (talk) 21:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

So where is the accent on the word "VUNO" on the "U" or on the "O"? Btw you didn't provide any source. The accent in Albanian is on O as pronounced by the people of Vuno themselves. It would be odd that in Albanian they pronounce it differently from how they pronounce it in Greek.--Sulmues ^(talk) 21:25, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The answer to your question is in my first posting, and also in my edit summary. Athenean (talk) 21:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Can you please reference? Gregoric is not saying anything on pronunciation of Vuno. --Sulmues ^(talk) 21:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

(unindent)People of Vuno don't pronounce it as Vuno(the stress being on the ultimate syllable). If Athenean doesn't provide a source saying that the people of Vuno pronounce the name of their village in that certain way then this has to go.--— ZjarriRrethues — ^talk 21:53, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

In Greekt they put the stress on the penultimate. I remember reading that somewhere, and I'm trying to remember where. Athenean (talk) 21:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Please source it asap: the article is about to go to DYK.--Sulmues ^(talk) 00:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC). Removed as unsourced. --Sulmues ^(talk) 21:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Nitsiakos

The content seems really doubious. In addition, this content is not relevant. "You want to add their favorite football teams as well?" Çerçok wrote this, and I agree with him. AlexBachmann (talk) 16:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Btw @Khirurg, your threats don't scare us. You do have several cases of removing sourced content without explanation. AlexBachmann (talk) 16:45, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Nitsiakos is an academic source. You have not provided a single valid reason for removing. Threats and insults won't cut it, in fact they will likely lead to a block if they continue. Khirurg (talk) 18:36, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

If you really wish to discuss, answer the question. Çerçok (talk) 10:34, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

You mean "You want to add their favorite football teams as well?" That is not a serious question. The real question is, why the content bothers you so much? What us "dubious" about it? Let's hear it. Khirurg (talk) 14:09, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

For the 5000th time, it is not related to identity. Çerçok (talk) 17:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

• Çerçok and AlexBachmann, Nitsiakos is saying that the Vuniotes are Albanians who to a large degree get money (or better said, got before Greece cut the "pensions" due to its financial crisis) from Greece or work in Greece, and due to that are friendly towards Greece. Not sth extraordinary as a claim IMO. Ktrimi991 (talk) 15:49, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

  @Ktrimi991Nothing extraordinary, and we are not challenging its truthfulness, but it was added into the identity section when it has nothing to do with it. Çerçok (talk) 17:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

It has everything to do with identity. You can't use that as an excuse to remove it. Khirurg (talk) 03:30, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Vuno's language is "i like greece"?!

@Khirurg you can't understand how much i like it but unfortunately it doesnt belong to the "Identity and Language" if the people of an albanian village "Like" Greece. As they also love USA, Japan, South Africa, and probably even Sealand. So stop with adding unrelated information just for the sake of adding as much "Greek" and "Greece" as you can. RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 14:33, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

If you can find a source that states that hey also love USA, Japan, South Africa, and probably even Sealand, you can add that in. In the meantime I strongly advise not to remove sourced information for the sole reason that you don't like it. Khirurg (talk) 14:55, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

No matter what the population likes there is no reason or importance to add personal preferences of foreign countries to the language and identity sector. RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 15:02, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Do you have any policy-based arguments for keeping out well-sourced information, or is it all just versions of "I don't like it"? Khirurg (talk) 15:17, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

It is a clear case of WP:Coatrack. To prove a point. So im giving you a friendly suggestion to self revert otherwise once again we would both be obliged to proceed otherwise. RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 15:35, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

WP:COATRACK? Not even close. It's literally just one sentence. If you want we can seek a third opinion. Khirurg (talk) 16:21, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

The number or size doesnt matter. Even if it mattered is the longest sentence in a 5 sentence sector. Still it doesnt change the face that it has absolutely NO RELEVANCE to the language or identity of the people of Vuno. Sure we can ask for a third opinion. RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 16:24, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Did you even read WP:COATRACK? Material that is supported by a reliable, published source whose topic is directly related to the topic of the article, is not using the article as a coatrack. The sentiments of the inhabitants of the village are of course directly relevant to the village. That it is of NO IMPORTANCE is nothing more than your opinion, in other words, WP:JDL. Khirurg (talk) 17:52, 27 September 2023 (UTC)