Talk:Wool bale
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This is such a small stub that it really should be integrated into the main wool article. DMahalko
Prices of a Bale of Wool
[edit]What about the price, and where would one purchase bales of wool?
71.114.178.147 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 17:28, 11 November 2008 (UTC).
I have restored the images deleted by you on 8th July of historic wool packs & sacks. I do not understand how you can consider them not to be relevant. Please advise. (Lobsterthermidor (talk) 18:17, 6 August 2011 (UTC))
- A wool bale is a standard sized and weighted pack of graded and sorted wool compressed by the mechanical means of a wool press. Packs and sacks do not fit this description which has been in use for several centuries. There also too many images there at present.Cgoodwin (talk) 22:36, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
- You have removed the tags without providing any refs. and the photos were placed where they should appear in the article. You have done precisely what you have accused me of doing: "effectively junking my prior contribution." Please do not alter without further talk here.
- We have a problem here between Australian & UK standards: You state a bale is of a standard size - you do not state what that is. Are all Australian bales so loosely packed as the first image of Merino wool? The juxtaposition of the English tightly packed style is informative & interesting. The Bales photo'd at South Molton, England are standard English bales, the weight of which I have provided in the text. These bales are merely graded and are pre-sale. You have assumed, I imagine, these to be the re-pressed bales after sale. They should not therefore go in the wool sale section where you removed them to. Re history: surely the correct place for the picture of the mule is here, at the start of the history section. This is history pre- Captain Cook, i.e. 14th. century England! The correct place for the carting of wool bales is surely in the sale section, as they are being taken from the grading depot to the salerooms. Discussion & images of woolsacks, i.e. pre-baling, is not less relevant than your text re the whole selling process, i.e. after baling, which perhaps should go into the existing article on marketing wool, not baling. You say that you have replaced the images contributed by me "where they should appear in the article", I cannot see why that means all at the bottom. That's why I have reverted. Please explain.(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 01:47, 7 August 2011 (UTC))
- The image that you moved is in fact a dumped "tri Pack" that is comprised of several bales of wool that have been compacted for shipping. Believe me the first image is not loosely packed, as bales weigh between 110 kg (242 lbs) and 204 kg (449 lbs) unless packed with specialty wool and they are now presed with hyraulic presses. The other images included are NOT of wool bales and should not be included here. There is a Woolsack article that may be more appropriate for them.Cgoodwin (talk) 05:02, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
- We have a problem here between Australian & UK standards: You state a bale is of a standard size - you do not state what that is. Are all Australian bales so loosely packed as the first image of Merino wool? The juxtaposition of the English tightly packed style is informative & interesting. The Bales photo'd at South Molton, England are standard English bales, the weight of which I have provided in the text. These bales are merely graded and are pre-sale. You have assumed, I imagine, these to be the re-pressed bales after sale. They should not therefore go in the wool sale section where you removed them to. Re history: surely the correct place for the picture of the mule is here, at the start of the history section. This is history pre- Captain Cook, i.e. 14th. century England! The correct place for the carting of wool bales is surely in the sale section, as they are being taken from the grading depot to the salerooms. Discussion & images of woolsacks, i.e. pre-baling, is not less relevant than your text re the whole selling process, i.e. after baling, which perhaps should go into the existing article on marketing wool, not baling. You say that you have replaced the images contributed by me "where they should appear in the article", I cannot see why that means all at the bottom. That's why I have reverted. Please explain.(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 01:47, 7 August 2011 (UTC))
- You have removed the tags without providing any refs. and the photos were placed where they should appear in the article. You have done precisely what you have accused me of doing: "effectively junking my prior contribution." Please do not alter without further talk here.
Your first intro image needs more explanation in text or in caption. Is this the tri Pack? If so suggest you cut and paste what you have written above for the benefit of the reader. It is of interest to those in the sheep business. I am disappointed you do not like the image of the mule/horse taking the "sheets" to the wool-factor. Why is it not relevant? It surely tells the story of how a bale is made, from sheep, to sheet, to bale. I would like it reinstated, why not below the image of the sheets, which you seem to accept? As for the woolsack image, WP is all about drawing the reader on into other related areas, hence the image. I don't know whether it is a sack or a bale, but it is a bag of some sort filled with wool. You might note that I placed a link in the Woolsack article to this article, which will draw some readers into learning about the wool business. I think your use of the "citation needed" tag is excessive, and detracts from the article. I don't know why you want a citation which confirms that wool-sorters don't like damp & dirty wool. Any sheep-farmer will tell you that.(Lobsterthermidor (talk) 19:41, 16 August 2011 (UTC))
- There are too many images here and there is already a link to relevant images in commons. Wool sacks, bags and sheets etc are not bales and have no place here. If more photos were required then photos of fleeces or butts would be more appropriate than these. No refs have been provided for any of your additions, most of which does not relate to bales. By the way I am a fully qualified woolclasser so I do know what I’m talking about.Cgoodwin (talk) 22:50, 16 August 2011 (UTC)