Template talk:Graph:PageViews

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This template was considered for deletion on 2018 August 21. The result of the discussion was "keep".

Feature request

It would be useful to have this include redirects, or follow redirects, or to combine the views from multiple pages. For example, to be able to display a comprehensive and intuitive continuous page-views count after an article title change/move.

An example of the problem can be seen near the bottom of Talk:Russo-Ukrainian_War#Requested_move_9_June_2020, for a page move on June 16, 2020. —Michael Z.

Change this to a link

Currently, every page with this template is appearing in Category:Pages with disabled graphs. It's about a third of the pages there.

What's not happening is even worse: People are seeing the error message, when we could give them a link to https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/.

I'd like to (temporarily/reversibly) change this template so that the existing code, e.g., from Talk:Cancer:

{{Graph:PageViews|365}}

could produce a relevant link like:

https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-365&pages=Cancer

instead of an error message. If/when the underlying software problems get fixed, we could revert back to the on-screen version at that time. In the meantime, people could see the graphs just by clicking the link. What do you think?

WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a plan for the replacement of Extension:Graph at Mw:Extension:Graph/Plans. It will start next July. PageViews will be supported, but it is not one of the first features to be rolled out. Snævar (talk) 09:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The relevant question isn't when the work will start, but when it will end. When page views are supported, whether that's six months or six years from now, we could revert the change then. WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:28, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One needs to know when the start is, in order to have an idea on the time it ends. I would say it takes 6 months from july, so an end time in January 2025. That date can get more accurate once it is known in July how much manpower WMF is throwing at it. PageViews will without a doubt need to be changed to use the new graph system, it is too soon to tell exactly how, we will know more in July/August. Snævar (talk) 02:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Snævar, what makes you say that the project should take six months? WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. This improves the reader experience, both by giving them something useful rather than nothing and by making WP as a platform look less broken. A single-location change that easily works around a wide swath of problems for now and is easily reversed when the underlying problem is fixed seems like a no-lose proposition. There's no telling when the graph extension will be fixed; and when they are, not telling whether callers will need to upgrade how they call it. DMacks (talk) 17:53, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]