Template talk:Infobox music genre

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Visual Presentation[edit]

I find that this box doesn't play well with the HTML on some pages, for example the Death Metal page looks wrong when the page is too wide: this box overlaps boxes lower down on the page. I'd fix it but I don't know how.

Adding "other_names" parameter[edit]

See the RfC close below. Cunard (talk) 05:30, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
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Is there support for this? I've left an example at Template:Infobox music genre/testcases. Would work well for articles like New wave (synthpop), Progressive rock (art rock, progressive pop) and Chillwave (hypnagogic pop). Synonymous terms, but still considered different genres. --Ilovetopaint (talk) 17:19, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

One problem is that "new wave" means different things in the US and in the UK – in the UK it would not necessarily have been associated with synthpop because it was used to describe immediate post-punk outfits... it would have been far more common in the UK press in the 1970s to use "new wave" to describe acts like Television, Blondie and Elvis Costello, who definitely weren't synthesizer-based bands. And conversely, the idea that 1980s mainstream pop acts like Culture Club, Tears for Fears or Howard Jones were in any way "new wave" would have had you laughed out of Britain. Richard3120 (talk) 14:25, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
@Richard3120: Of course. It's the same thing with Shoegazing and Dream pop, as well as the other examples I named. "Art rock" is not "progressive rock", but history has treated those terms interchangeably. Similarly, "shoegazing" is what the British used to call "dream pop". It was only later that these all became their own distinguished genres.
Another example is Acid rock. There is a persistent edit war over whether "psychedelic rock" should be listed as a stylistic origin. According to numerous sources, "psychedelic rock" and "acid rock" mean the same thing. So having psychedelic rock as the "origin" of acid rock violates WP:NPOV, since it pushes the pov that acid rock came after psyche rock. That leaves |other_topics= as the only appropriate spot for linking psyche rock. But I think adding |other_names= is a fairer solution. Psychedelic and acid rock are inextricable – they shouldn't be linked in a "footnotes"-type section for both infoboxes.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 03:41, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
I agree with you, but I know other editors have different views – I was just highlighting one example where genre warriors could end up arguing about whether a particular act was new wave or not. I generally steer well clear of any genre discussions, it would take up too much of my editing time which would be better spent elsewhere. Richard3120 (talk) 03:49, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

It looks like fodder for WP:OR and edit wars. We already have genre warriors, this would likely go down the same road. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:43, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Edit wars rarely ensue with infoboxes that contain inline citations.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 09:29, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

RfC[edit]

There is a unanimous consensus to add |other_names= to {{Infobox music genre}}. Cunard (talk) 05:30, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
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Considering the ubiquity of musical genres that have more than one name, should |other_names= be added to {{Infobox music genre}}? (Testcase examples) --Ilovetopaint (talk) 22:41, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

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Template-protected edit request on 22 February 2017[edit]

Per above RfC, please sync template to Template:Infobox music genre/sandbox Ilovetopaint (talk) 01:33, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Done — Train2104 (t • c) 03:20, 22 February 2017 (UTC)