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Proposal to merge.

I propose a merge with Template:User USA. Templates are too similar. Not enough distinctive qualities to justify both. - Deron Dantzler 18:44, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Saying that a user "comes from" the USA may be perceived by some as being different from saying that the user "is a citizen" of the USA. Especially in the case of someone with dual nationality (such as myself), saying both that I "come from" the USA and that I "am" a Canadian could convey the misimpression that I gave up my US citizenship (which I have not done).

I can understand that argument. I'm trying to be proactive in helping with the growing Userbox Project. Seems like these are very similar and we should be able to come up with a logical merger. See following proposal by Richwales. 'This user is an American.' Does not imply citizenship. Also, shouldn't be a problem in your situation which I'm sure is probably very prevalent. Using both userboxes: Is a Canadian, Is an American should pose no problem. - Deron Dantzler 18:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If these two templates really do need to be merged into one, then I would propose that Template:User_USA should be rephrased to say "This user is an American." Richwales 18:55, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a good idea to me. Objections or other ideas anyone? - Deron Dantzler 18:58, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: I think there is a difference between the two... a subtle difference, but a difference nevertheless... It's perfectly possible to be born outside the U.S.A. and then move there later but when still young - and never gain citizenship. It's reasonable for such a person to claim to be "from" the US, but not be a citizen... So, I think it's useful to keep the two separate even though it's fairly trivial to make one's own userbox with a preferred variation... Junior rookie | Talk 05:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is also possible to be a citizen of the U.S., but not born in the U.S. For example - someone might be born in Russia, move to the U.S., and then become a citizen (see: Naturalization). So, someone could be from one place (other than the U.S.), and also be a citizen of the U.S. Junior rookie | Talk 17:18, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, sounds good, I guess. — Ian Manka Talk to me‼ 21:13, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

new template modifications

Have you seen "This user is american... and unabashedly proud of it!" --Emperor Walter Humala · ^{( talk? · help! )} 01:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]