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After digging in the English version of ynet news I've found English sources. Some hebrew sources don't have english parallels, so I looked for completely new ones, that provide the same info. Also, there are differences between the Hebrew and English version(regarding locations; maybe other things too).
With these sources, I intend to rewrite what I've added earlier(for better accuracy and style), and add the new and improved version. The general guidelines for myself would be:
- In case of differences between the Hebrew and the english versions:
- I'll be basing on the English one
- If the Hebrew version adds info that doesn't contracdict the English one it will be added too(regarding locations, for instance)
- Small additions from the Hebrew versions WILL be added(consider the third row in the table below). Something completely new from the Hebrew versions, that doesn't appear in the english ones won't be added. Same goes if the differences between the versions are significant.
- Style: I'll be using the English versions' text when rephrasing. Errors left could be, of course, fixed by anyone...
Also, see specific remarks below:
Alternative English sources for the Hebrew ones[edit]
| Hebrew source(what I wrote basing on it) | Parallel English sources(with relevant citations) | Comments | ||
| (18.07.05, 13:50) מתנגדי ההתנתקות החלו לצעוד מקריית שמונה לגוש קטיף Many buses were halted and prevented from going to the protest. At about 13:30, some 200 protestors started marching from Kiryat Shmona towards Gush Katif, since the police prevented the buses from going there |
(07.18.05, 13:39) Witnesses: Police stop buses carrying protesters Police in the northern town of Kiryat Shmona prevented four buses carrying 200 people from driving out toward a mass protest pullout opponents plan to hold in southern Israel, witnesses said. |
The Hebrew source states "Gush Katif", while the english one only says "souther Israel" Also, the Hebrew source has a quote by one of the protestors not present in the English source. | ||
| (18.07.05, 20:35) מתנגדי ההתנתקות מקריית שמונה עלו לאוטובוסים לאחר שצעדו 15 קילומטרים At about 20:30, after marching 15 kilometers they boarded other buses that were allowed to go to Gush Katif |
(07.18.05, 20:42) Protesters in north walk 15 km Anti-disengagement protesters from Kiryat Shemone walked 15 kilometers (9.3 miles) to board buses to tonight's protest rally and march in Netivot. Police prevented the original buses from leaving for the rally. |
I mistakingly wrote "Gush Katif". The rally began and Netivot, and the protestors marched to Kfar Maimon. | ||
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(07.21.05, 10:14) Buses leave for Kfar Maimon The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that four private bus companies have the right to take passengers from around Israel to Netivot and Kfar Maimon. The court ruling applies to the current case only, and not to the general question of whether police have the right in principle to obstruct the movement of private citizens. |
This:
was based on the Hebrew source from the fourth row. English source found. See below to the left(middle column). | ||
| Jul 22, '05 High Court Judge Blames Kfar Maimon Crowd for Police Damage The court also did not rule on an appeal by four bus companies which questioned the legality of the police to stop more than 125 buses from leaving Israeli's major cities this week. The buses were scheduled to take more than 10,000 people to join the rally at Kfar Maimon, and police took away the drivers' licenses of at least four bus drivers, thus preventing them from taking the protestors. Law enforcement officials claimed that the rally was illegal because the organizers announced it would be followed by a march with the intention of entering the closed military zone of Gush Katif. The bus companies withdrew their appeals Thursday because the rally was over, and the court left undecided the question of whether the police were in their rights to stop the buses. Barak stated that the court should not rule on the matter because the matter is not presently applicable. Eitan Leshem, attorney for the bus companies, claimed that the court's "elegant dodge" from deciding suggests that "the police decidedly went one step too far." |
This Hebrew source is more accurate: המצב נרגע, העתירות נדחו 21/7/2005 11:34
The following English source says the same:
In an agreement reached in the High Court of Justice, four bus companies will be permitted to transport disengagement opponents from around the country to Kfar Maimon and Netivot. As a result of the agreement, the court is not dealing with the principle of police barring the transportation of activists and the bus company owners have agreed to withdraw the petition they had put before the court. | |||
| (21.07.05, 11:14) חשין לכפר מימון: בקשו מהאורחים שלכם שיעזבו He said "All of our petitioners recieved full Freedom of movement... Yet, the principle matter of the plea hasn't been ruled on" | ||||
| (19.07.05, 16:15) מועצת יש"ע טוענת: אלפי בני אדם ממשיכים בדרכם לכפר מימון That afternoon the Yesha Council still claimed that many buses are detained and private cars are detained and that the police is revoking driver's licences |
This was clearly a mistake by me. Actually, one that doesn't even requires the reader to know Hebrew in order to find it. The ruling I wrote about(that wasn't, but that's another mistake and another opera) was from the 21st, while the source I gave about "that afternoon" was from the 19th. This didn't happened on "that afternoon", and therefore does not require a seperate source. On the 19th buses were still detained etc., and so did claim the Yesha Council. On the 21st the arrangement with the police was achieved(see above). |
More sources[edit]
Court postpones bus stoppage discussion
'Sharon turning Sderot into Tiananmen’
Thousands stream to Netivot protest
Yesha Council: Police stop 320 buses
Yesha Council petitions for march
High Court Judge Blames Kfar Maimon Crowd for Police Damage
High Court: Buses Permitted to Transport Disengagement Opponents
Standoff between Israeli police and opponents of Gaza pullout
Quick remarks on sources[edit]
Ynet[edit]
Ynet(Hebrew) and YnetNews(English) are Yedioth Ahronoth's websites. Other sites(and companies) who belong to the Yedioth Group are:
- YnetCenter - Online bulletin board
- Pnai Plus - Entertainment magazine
- Menta - Lifestyle magazine (www.menta.co.il and menta.co.il redirect to www.ynet.co.il)
- Blazer - Men's magazine
- TAM - A local newspaper from the Tel-Aviv area
- Hotza'at Yedioth - Book publishing
- Look - Model agency
Ynet is a left-wing site. It's editor, Orly Popper is with the Machsom Watch organization. from Ynet(Hebrew) from YnetNews(English)