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Make sure you read through Wikipedia:Vandalism as that's the knowledge which most of the questions I ask you and tasks you do will revolve around.

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The start

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Twinkle

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Twinkle is a very useful tool when performing maintenance functions around Wikipedia. Please have a read through WP:TWINKLE. Enable Twinkle (if haven't already) and leave a note here to let me know that you have enabled it.

Good faith and vandalism

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When patrolling for vandalism, you may often come across edits which are unhelpful, but not vandalism - these are good faith edits. It is important to recognise the difference between a vandalism edit and a good faith edit, especially because Twinkle gives you the option of labelling edits you revert as such. Please read WP:AGF and WP:NOT VANDALISM before completing the following tasks.

Please explain below the difference between a good faith edit and a vandalism edit, and how you would tell them apart. 4-5 sentences, in your own words.

  • Good faith edits are edits made by people who are trying to help the encyclopedia, even if their edits may seem unconstructive. They are not always made by newcomers, although they often are (because newcomers might not understand the rules and etiquette of Wikipedia yet). Sometimes they are made by the most experienced of editors, like boldly editing, which is not vandalism, and is instead encouraged in most situations. They should not be treated like vandalism, and instead we should gently push new users to learn about the policies they may have inadvertently violated, for example, the policy to not use articles as test edit spaces. I would tell them apart by asking the user that made them about it, and if it is a topic I am not well-versed in, I would do some research to prevent this from happening again. Shadestar474 (talk) 23:33, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
    checkY I agree. Often it can be tricky when trying to determine if a user is a simple vandal/long term abuser or a good faith user trying to help. Itโ€™s always best to discuss with the user when unsure. If they respond with something like โ€œI didnโ€™t know. Thank you.โ€ You can likely AGF. If they respond with โ€œgo awayโ€, you can probably assume bad faith. - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 03:35, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Please find three examples of good faith but unhelpful edits, and three examples of vandalism. You don't need to revert the example you find, and I am happy for you to use previous undos in your edit history if you wish. Good faith:

Shadestar474 (talk) 23:33, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Vandalism:

Shadestar474 (talk) 23:33, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Note: I am probably being terrible at assuming good faith here, I donโ€™t have tons of practice at that, but I think this is the practice, so I will try as best I can.

No problem. If you already knew all of this stuff, you wouldnโ€™t need to take the course! - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 04:01, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Iโ€™d like to see just a little more work in good faith v.s vandalism detection. Please determine if these edits are vandalism or good faith and explain why in 2-3 sentences.

  • 1
    It looks like they were putting genuine information on there, just they didnโ€™t know it has to be sourced and they also didnโ€™t know how to spell or use grammar.
  • 2
    Looks like blanking.
  • 3 (Note WP:LISTPEOPLE)
    I canโ€™t understand this diff bc itโ€™s in a different format than the one Iโ€™m used to for some reason.


Iโ€™m sufficiently satisfied.  Passed pt. #1 - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 04:15, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Warning and reporting

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When you use Twinkle to warn a user, you have a number of options to choose from: you can select the kind of warning (for different offences), and the level of warning (from 1 to 4, for increasing severity). Knowing which warning to issue and what level is very important. Further information can be found at WP:WARN and WP:UWUL.

Why do we warn users?

When would a 4im warning be appropriate?

Should you substitute a template when you place it on a user talk page, and how do you do it?

What should you do if a user who has received a level 4 or 4im warning vandalises again?

Please give examples (using {{Tlsubst|''name of template''}}) of three different warnings (not different levels of the same warning and excluding the test edit warning levels referred to below), that you might need to use while recent changes patrolling and explain what they are used for.

Make sure you keep in mind that some edits that seem like vandalism can be test edits. This happens when a new user is experimenting and makes accidental unconstructive edits. Generally, these should be treated with good faith, especially if it is their first time, and warned gently. The following templates are used for test edits: {{subst:uw-test1}}, {{subst:uw-test2}} and {{subst:uw-test3}}.

Find and revert some vandalism. (Not good faith edits) Warn each user appropriately, using the correct kind of warning and level. Please include at least two appropriate reports to AIV. For each revert and warning please fill in a line on the table below.

I am going to be busy tomorrow, I will do all of the vandalism reverts below the day after tomorrow. Thanks for understanding, Shadestar474 (talk) 05:09, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Of course. This course is entirely at your own pace! - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 11:11, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Also, a question, do I have to revert the vandalism to put it on this table? Because, when Iโ€™m recent changes patrolling, all the vandalism gets reverted by other people within seconds of it happening, so I canโ€™t get to the vandalism in time to revert it.
This has been a problem for other students too. Users with more advanced tools, like Hugggle, often beat newer vandal fighters to vandalism. How about this: At least 5 need to be your reverts, the rest can be others, but you must explain if you think the revert was good or bad. - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 22:52, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
Ok, thank you! And it says to revert vandalism, but can they be reverts of unconstructive, but good faith, edits? I just reverted one of those and am wondering if I can put it into the table.
I guess thatโ€™s fine. Try to do as many of your own reverts as you can, and less of others than. Please also remember to warn users. Thanks! - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 00:14, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
# Diff of your revert Your comment (optional). If you report to AIV please include the diff Warning diff Illusion Flame's Comment
1 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1185473995 ClueBot NG warned the user first, I decided not to Partially correct. Good revert, but you shouldโ€™ve still warned, even though Cluebot already did. You would use a level 2 warning: ({{uw-vandalism2}}).
2 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1185470517 My warning was the first thing on their talk page so there is no diff, I linked to the talk page instead. (also I couldnโ€™t find a warning template for unsourced content, could you show me where it is, please?) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fraz03737 Good revert. The template is {{uw-unsourced1}}. It should be accessible in Twinkle. - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 01:03, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
3 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waratah&diff=cur&oldid=prev comment https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A58.96.29.93&diff=1185478348&oldid=1185478178 Partially correct. Good revert, but you shouldโ€™ve used a level 3 warning. - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 01:03, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
4 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1185484044 I linked to the talk page again for the same reason. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:2603:7000:7D00:B05A:0:0:0:E24 Correct - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 02:13, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
5 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1185485577 Perhaps should be blocked for repeated disruptive editing? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A172.85.41.84&diff=1185486368&oldid=1185485767 Correct In the future, if you feel a user should be blocked, (after sufficient warning) report them to AIV using Twinkle and link it here. - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 02:13, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
6 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1185487347 comment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:2600:8805:3F01:D100:19F4:8B64:3041:F6B1 Correct - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 02:13, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
7 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Attack_on_Paul_Pelosi&diff=1185490943&oldid=1185490876 comment https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A2601%3A184%3AC401%3AAC60%3AF0F7%3A2EAC%3AA8E0%3AD1C2&diff=1185491208&oldid=1185465194
8 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Street_punk&diff=prev&oldid=1185521003 comment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:2600:1700:F060:2730:31B6:1C11:218D:F029 Correct - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 20:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
9 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Transgender_rights_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1185519742 comment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:87.115.136.62 Correct - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 20:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
10 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Attack_on_Paul_Pelosi&diff=prev&oldid=1185490943 comment https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:2601:184:C401:AC60:F0F7:2EAC:A8E0:D1C2&diff=prev&oldid=1185491107
11 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shawn_Levy&diff=prev&oldid=1185487347 comment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:2600:8805:3F01:D100:19F4:8B64:3041:F6B1 Correct - ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐‘ฐ๐’๐’๐’–๐’”๐’Š๐’๐’ ๐‘ญ๐’๐’‚๐’Ž๐’† (๐’•๐’‚๐’๐’Œ)๐Ÿ”ฅ 20:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
12 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_pizza&diff=prev&oldid=1202031742 comment User talk:205.220.210.141
13 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Adam_Idah&diff=prev&oldid=1202056876 comment User talk:2A00:23C8:5D8E:8D01:5977:4E8A:2A0D:E441
14 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pacific_viperfish&diff=prev&oldid=1202049537 comment User talk:2800:370:151:3470:4C23:9536:16BA:3441
15 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eugene_V._Debs&diff=prev&oldid=1202040793 comment https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:96.40.220.74&diff=prev&oldid=1202040991

Also, I reverted some blatant vandalism and used a 4im template, I was wondering if the edit constituted that. I was confident it did, but that was my first time, so I just wanted to check with a more experienced editor. Diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brian_Mast&diff=prev&oldid=1202184356 Shadestar474 (talk) 06:12, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Reported to AIV for the first time! https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=1202440770 I wouldโ€™ve put it in the table, but it was full. Shadestar474 (talk) 19:54, 2 February 2024 (UTC)