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Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:17, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please note in particular that articles and edits about the Arab-Israeli conflict are covered by the extended-confirmed restriction. You can post constructive edit requests at the talk page, but are otherwise barred from discussing the subject or making any article edits related to it. Please let me know if you have any questions about this. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:11, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks--my bad. The edit I was reverting was made by a similarly fresh account a bit before, so I didn't realize it had been restricted in the meantime. My understanding is that the consensus on the talk page was to remove that section prior to restriction and I believe it straightforwardly merits removal, but I'll leave action on that to someone who actually has an edit history. TracingWoodgrains (talk) 20:22, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That "thanks--my bad" energy will take you far here. There are too many rules for anyone to keep track of, so we mainly just find out after accidentally breaking them. I made a mistake here myself and I've got a few thousand edits and an admin hat over you! Happy editing. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 23:10, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Firefangledfeathers: The revert in question was of edits made by Heisenberg Cut in violation of WP:ARBPIA4. My reading of the restriction is that it applies to all edits and pages related to the topic regardless of whether general sanctions had been invoked on that particular page at the time the time the edits were made. Someone who's wrong on the internet (talk) 20:29, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Someone who's wrong on the internet. Any EC editor can revert edits that violate ARBPIA4's EC restriction, and yes, you are right that the restriction covers edits about the topic even on page's that are not fully covered by the sanctions. That said, non-EC editors, being subject themselves to the restriction, should not be the ones reverting such edits. Your revert was fine, TW's was not. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 22:00, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]