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Please stop reverting relevant high-quality content and references, even if the author may have been responsible for the original addition.
Sidbishnoi: I definitely agree. I came to this IP's page to make him stop reverting. All references are related and well-written.
- What is happening here? @Sidbishnoi and Finncowboy: WP:SIG + timestamp, please. El_C 13:47, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- @El C An IP is reverting changes by an autoconfirmed user. Even if self-citation, Wikipedia allows self citation if with good nature and related content. I looked into E3A contributions. Only 4 of 160 in the past several years were about citing new references. The articles are published in good journals. I say they can stay and help readers. Finncowboy (talk) 13:52, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Finncowboy, what are you talking about? There's way more than 4, including some very prominent pages such as: Economics, Real estate, Machine learning, Nomad, and even Twitter. El_C 13:57, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- You're correct. I am looking at the papers. The references occurred over 4 years and I say this is not excessive: "Citing oneself is allowed on Wikipedia, but are discouraged from excessive self-citation."
- If you become too keen on pages, half the references are self promotion. For example, look at [3] in Machine learning, unrelated paper and many more in Twitter and other pages.
- Now look at the Twitter change. It's a paper about Twitter trends with statistics, very related.
- We can cut some slack here. The content are related. Finncowboy (talk) 14:05, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- I disagree. To start with, I don't know anything about this being a self cite. What do you base that on? But even if so, the pages I listed are very prominent, so I definitely think it violates the spirit of WP:SELFCITE and WP:PROMO, regardless of the rate in which this user is adding it to pages. As an uninvolved admin, I am tasked with handling WP:COI or WP:PAID, which is what I'm currently doing. El_C 14:13, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- I appreciate your work. Please also note my below comment: there is a good case for further inspection and reverting :)
- About self-cite, I thought that these were being reverted because of self-citation. I'm fine with reverting, but I do believe this seems hostile against a novice user. They also have done some good unrelated changes that may not continue, because of multiple reversion and messages in one day. Finncowboy (talk) 14:22, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- I disagree. To start with, I don't know anything about this being a self cite. What do you base that on? But even if so, the pages I listed are very prominent, so I definitely think it violates the spirit of WP:SELFCITE and WP:PROMO, regardless of the rate in which this user is adding it to pages. As an uninvolved admin, I am tasked with handling WP:COI or WP:PAID, which is what I'm currently doing. El_C 14:13, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- @El C If you look keenly at [3] in Machine Learning, you see that it is shady and should be reverted (not the case for E3A's changes):
- - It is [2] in Multi-agent_system.
- - It's completely irrelevant to the pages.
- - It is on the first line or first paragraphs of the page.
- Please reconsider your view on the topic. It matters more if we see the action. I say E3A is quite a good user considering it did not add spams or unrelated content. The works were related to the core of pages.
- But I do wonder if Wikipedia can prevent this kind of action with a software. Why no one has noticed Multi-agent_system[2]. Finncowboy (talk) 14:17, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- My view reflect longstanding policy and best practices. The salient fact is that the user has added a citation by Rahimberdi Annamoradnejad (a page which they are the author of) to multiple pages, some very prominent. So I challenge that a little investigating is due rather than instant blind faith (i.e. balancing WP:AGF and WP:PACT). El_C 14:24, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Your work actually seem hostile or personal to me. Is this person someone you know? Because I am seeing a little unprofessional angry responses in here and also in E3A page. Why aren't you worried about the one I found which I say has much more priority to investigate?
- Either way, this seems like a self-citation. Although I am not seeing citations to Rahi... in most edited pages, and I am thinking this may not be it. @El C Finncowboy (talk) 14:30, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Again, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't believe I've ever met any of you. Just patrolling WP:RFPP. But feel free to seek review in any forum you see fit. El_C 14:40, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Also:
I appreciate your work
doesn't quite align withYour work actually seem hostile or personal to me
, but I'm getting the sense that this conversation has probably reached the end of its usefulness. El_C 14:42, 10 April 2022 (UTC)- That's fine. I will.
- The 'appreciation' was honest and a result of my first impression of your work, which you did not respond. Then I realized you are very keen only on one person, both in here and in the user's page, notes, etc. Then, I was wondering that who this IP is? Was this you trying to not disclose who you are, who suddenly came with the admin user and act surprised?!
- Maybe I am thinking too paranoid about this. I don't care about a reference, but I am feeling some personal connections here. I agree to end the conversation. Love all. Finncowboy (talk) 14:52, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- You do whatever you see fit, but I'd advise you to double check the facts before jumping to all sorts of conclusions. El_C 15:05, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Also:
- Again, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't believe I've ever met any of you. Just patrolling WP:RFPP. But feel free to seek review in any forum you see fit. El_C 14:40, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- My view reflect longstanding policy and best practices. The salient fact is that the user has added a citation by Rahimberdi Annamoradnejad (a page which they are the author of) to multiple pages, some very prominent. So I challenge that a little investigating is due rather than instant blind faith (i.e. balancing WP:AGF and WP:PACT). El_C 14:24, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
- Finncowboy, what are you talking about? There's way more than 4, including some very prominent pages such as: Economics, Real estate, Machine learning, Nomad, and even Twitter. El_C 13:57, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
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