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February 2024[edit]

Information icon Hello, I'm AntiDionysius. I noticed that you recently removed content from Higher Education Review without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. AntiDionysius (talk) 09:55, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what explanation you are looking for. I am Dr Neil Harrison (https://education.exeter.ac.uk/staff/profile/index.php?web_id=neil_harrison) at the University of Exeter, the most recent editor of this journal, which was wound up in 2018 at the owner's request. I am simply tidying up the entry to make it accurate by removing details of long-retired editors and noting that the journal is no longer active. I would appreciate it if you could please restore the corrections that I made. Many thanks. Neil... 88.97.15.249 (talk) 10:38, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please consult our policies on sourcing and conflicts of interest. Thanks. AntiDionysius (talk) 10:44, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Had a read - not sure what point you're making. I have no conflict of interest and I am the most reliable source. I was editor of the journal from 2015 (when the listed Rob Cuthbert retired) until 2018, when it was wound up. I am just trying to make Wikipedia accurate, but you seem to prefer that it is inaccurate, which is rather odd. Perhaps you can explain carefully for a very occasional user what it is you would like me to do as I'm trying to be helpful, but clearly missing the mark somehow! 88.97.15.249 (talk) 11:34, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You do indeed have a conflict of interest; being editor of the journal that the article about is about as clear as it gets. It's not a normative label, it just means that you are externally related to the subject and therefore asked to follow certain extra procedures in the interests of transparency.
Unfortunately, you cannot yourself be the source for information on Wikipedia, no matter how authoritative your experience is, because there's no way for anyone else to verify such experience. Things need to be backed up by news articles, web pages, academic works, books or other such things.
As for how you should proceed: since you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid editing the page in question and instead request that other users make any edits to the page. When asking for such edits, to increase the chances that they are accepted, be as specific as possible, and point to reliable source(s) that back up the changes you want to make. AntiDionysius (talk) 12:07, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do not have a conflict of interest. As I said very clearly above and in the original changes, the journal has not existed since 2018, so I am a **former** editor offering to make a historical update. Were we having this conversation in 2018, you would be right. This is 2024 and I have no material or financial connection to an entity that ceased to exist six years ago. Anyway, I've wasted enough time on a pointless conversation - enjoy your factually incorrect page and good luck finding 'news articles, web pages, academic works, books or other such things' in order to update it. 88.97.15.249 (talk) 13:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. AntiDionysius (talk) 14:06, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for taking the time to update the Higher Education Review article! And I agree that Wikipedia policies can act perversely: the editor who wrapped up the journal is in the best position to update the Wikipedia page to reflect that.
The problem is we need sourcing. Wikipedia needs to protect itself against people who claim knowledge of the topic in question with an unwarranted certainty, or they might be vandals.
So you are in the best position right now to help us find some sourcing. Archived copies of the web site weren't entirely helpful:
  • July 2020 web site the journal is described in present tense, presented as a going concern. It shows the most recent articles in 2017. There is a note about a new website, which is not specified.
  • September 2020 the web site says unavailable.
Is there a press release? Was there a final goodbye note from the editor? A document filed somewhere wrapping up the corporate entity? It can be hard to find a citation for a negative. I can re-add a version of your edit, I might put citation-needed. Probably I'll add a link to the archived online articles (from 2011-2017).
And I apologize that you were made to feel unwelcome. The other editor is right about COI policies, but the main point is that you are in a position to help and were trying to do so.
-- M.boli (talk) 16:25, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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