User talk:Acenfacts

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Acen Razvi

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Look, you just can't re-create the article exactly the same, you need to say that the artist is important for some reason. Plus, if you keep it unformatted like that, it's going to draw attention to itself. BenB4 16:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of Acen razvi

Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Acen razvi, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Acen razvi seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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If you think that the existing article is incorrect, fix it -anyone can edit Wikipedia. You can't just dump the text that you did because

it is copyright - if you own the copyright, put on your website that you are releasing the text under the GFDL licence, which includes commercial use
It reads like an advert, Wikipedia is not a free advertising service.
The fact that the text is "approved" by the artist and his manager suggests that the concept of neutral POV seems to have been overlooked.

Bear in mind also, that you cannot own the content of a page, anyone can edit. If there is a genuine difference on facts, get others to arbitrate, don't just dump spam. Jimfbleak 05:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

When he says "POV", Jim is referencing Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, one of our most important policies. In brief, it says that we have to write neutrally about a topic. Obviously, something from someone's publisher is unlikely to be neutral (if you're a good publisher, it's not supposed to be), and presents a clear conflict of interest. In cases like this, we recommend you not edit the article and instead only suggest changes to the article's talk page.--Chaser - T 06:07, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Acen Razvi and "legal action"

Since the Acen Razvi article is now deleted, I think this issue is moot. However, I'll state for the record that we have a policy against legal threats at Wikipedia:No legal threats. It doesn't mean that you can't make legal threats, but it does mean that we may block you from editing the site until the legal issue is resolved. In any case, I don't think this was an issue requiring serious legal action, so I'd appreciate no more references to legal action, like this, as that can have a chilling effect on the free editing environment we try to foster here. If there is a problem with inaccuracies or misleading text, then please discuss the issue on the article's talk page and attempt to come to a resolution with other editors. Thanks.--Chaser - T 05:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mistakes in the Acen Razvi article

The real name of Acen Razvi listed as Syed Ahsen Razvi was taken from the Guinness Book of British Hits Singles and Albums. I am unsure as to how they got the original info - maybe you should contact them. Not sure about the Appleheads thing. However, just because you have seen things that you feel are wrong, doesn't mean that you can replace the article with something that's twenty times worse. What you replaced it with was journalistic and hyped up; it sounded like it had been taken from a promotional website. If you think something is wrong, replace the information in the article, not obliterate it with what you replaced it with last time. Triangle e 06:22, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The reference to Acen's alleged real name is already there. I see you have removed that bit anyway. I don't get all this "representation" stuff. Now those mistakes have been removed, I can't see anything wrong with the article. Triangle e 10:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, peace has been restored, good luck folks, Jimfbleak 12:12, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

We can't really accept an interview with the subject. If there are sources to correct any misconceptions, that does help. Alternatively, if you see something that you know is untrue and is unsourced, any unsourced material may be challenged and removed. Thanks. Sorry about the initial errors in Acen's article. We strive for accuracy, but sometimes we miss things.--Chaser - T 12:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]