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Ethnic religions in China[edit]

Hi,

thank you for your articles on ethnic religions in China.
I would like to ask you to write articles on the religions respectively common among the following ethnic groups:


Kind regards,
Sarcelles (talk) 20:13, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

You're welcome, Sarcelles! I'll try (if I will find good sources) to write articles about the religions of those peoples over the next months!--Aethelwolf Emsworth (talk) 17:54, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Merge Yuan Fen into Yuanfen[edit]

Hi AE --

I came across your article Yuan fen when I was looking for sources for the presently unsourced Yuanfen. Since "Spacing in pinyin is based on whole words, not single syllables" Pinyin#Orthography, the title should be "Yuanfen," and I left a note on "Yuan Fen"'s Talk Page that I would merge it. I'd be happy to do so, but since you were the one who did the work on the page, maybe you should be the one to merge it and get the credit. What do you think? Cheers ch (talk) 03:14, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello CWH! Thank you for consulting me about the merger. I have done a quick merger of the two pages.--Aethelwolf Emsworth (talk) 17:35, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Shenism Portal[edit]

Hi AE -- I've started a discussion at the Talk Page for the Shenism Portal. I'm afraid that I don't understand what happened. It seems that the "Chinese Folk Religion" portal was renamed "Shenism." Please correct me if I am wrong, but renaming the portal creates a lot of problems. But the discussion should be on the Talk Page there. All the best in any case. ch (talk) 17:32, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Faism? Wuism?[edit]

Hi again AE;

I have another question, again leaning on your good faith and wondering if you can help me out. I've put a comment at the Talk Page for Faism, where I wonder if there is an English language source for the term "Faism." I looked through the notes and sources for the article and could not find one, and a Google search didn't find anything substantial either. So to tell the truth I'm a little skeptical and in any case doubt that Wikipedia should put so much emphasis on such an out-of-the-way term, even if there is a source for it.

I also doubt that Wuism is a good term for an article in the English Wikipedia see WP:English. The main source is a translation, that is, Libbrecht. Although there are several examples in reliable sources, the term is not in general use in other places or in surveys so it is not a WP:Common Name. I suggest that we should rename the article "Chinese shamanism" or some such, and expand it. How does this sound?

You will see that I went ahead and made changes at Chinese folk religion to bring it in line with guidelines for writing the lead in WP:Lead.

Cheers ch (talk) 04:55, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello CWH. Regarding "Faism", the main source for it is the academic publication of the Folk Religion Society of Taiwan Faism and Folk Religion, which is the official translation of "法教與民俗信仰學術研討會論文集". Since the topic has not been covered in Western academia, I think the Chinese source to be a good start.
Regarding Wuism vs. Chinese shamanism, the respective articles explain that the two are different (ex. Wuism is not the same as southern mediumship). Chinese shamanism should remain a disambiguation page.
I personally disapprove the deletion of alternative names in the lede of the article, particularly in the case they are terms used by academics and properly sourced. Per MOS:LEADALT they should be present in the lede: "significant alternative names for the topic should be mentioned in the article, usually in the first sentence or paragraph. These may include alternative spellings, longer or shorter forms, historical names, and significant names in other languages. Indeed, alternative names can be used in article text in contexts where they are more appropriate than the name used as the title of the article." --Aethelwolf Emsworth (talk) 13:16, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your good replies here and at the Faism TalkPage, where I've agreed with your suggestion that the article would be better as "Chinese ritual mastery traditions" -- probably any further comments would be better there, so anyone else can add their opinions. Also, I apologize that I should have made my comments about Wuism on the TalkPage there, so let's take it up at that place.ch (talk)

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Religion in South Korea[edit]

Greetings! I don't know why you reverted my fixing of the overlinking problem while you were adding new material to the article, but perhaps you could consider making the new additions starting from this version which is cleared from the overlinking? Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 20:16, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

I didn't see immediately the edits you have made. I apologise for the edit conflict.--Aethelwolf Emsworth (talk) 20:25, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
Aaah, it's okay! I'll give you peace with the improvements you are making! :-) Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 20:27, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

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Religion in North Korea[edit]

Why do you keep editing it out to make it seem as if North Korea isn't an atheist country even though every source indicates so? Stupid biased low-life atheist. 216.54.171.18 (talk) 19:47, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

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Religion in China[edit]

Hello, I was waiting for other people (a third opinion) to comment on the Talk:Religion in China on what to do with the tables, because of our discussion, but you put those tables on the Demographics of China instead. As much disagreement as I have on the usefulness of tables, I think they are even more unsuitable for the Demographics of China article, because if there is already an available main article on this topic ("Religion in China"), then that's where you should put these extensive information at. Making this whole section in the Demographics of China article entirely tables without "content and context" to elaborate isn't a very good way to go. That's why the main article is a better place.

Also, on the talk, you proposed a collapsible template, and that would be a better direction.

I suggest that we move the tables back to the Religion in China article, and make it a collapsible template like you said on the talk page. (Also let's keep this discussion on your talk so its easier to stay on track of the conversation).--Thomasettaei (talk) 13:05, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I thought to have solved the problem by putting the tables in the "Demographics of China" article, which basically seems to have to do with numbers and graphics. However, if you think that it's better to keep them in the main article as a collapsible template, I'll move them back there! I'll rewrite an introductory text in "Demographics of China#Religion".--Aethelwolf Emsworth (talk) 19:42, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi, on this map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Largest_religion_by_province_in_China.svg, you might want to fix the color on Ningxia, since the map is saying "Religion with an absolute majority (50%+) of believers by province of China", and over 60% of the population in Ningxia are Han, with Hui only constitutes 34% of the population there.--Thomasettaei (talk) 07:49, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

I am going to fix it. Thank you for having noticed the mistake. I thought Ningxia was 50/50 Hui/Han.--Aethelwolf Emsworth (talk) 12:35, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Short citations are cool![edit]

Hi AE;

Just a note to thank you again and make a quick suggestion about bibliography and reference short citations that will save you time in the long run and make the notes in the articles you work on easier for readers. The big advantage for readers is that the footnote is linked directly to the entry in the References section, and the big advantage for the editor is that it produces correct form with no fuss. There is certainly no compulsion to use it, but it is widely used among experienced editors such as yourself. I admit that it took me some experimentation and some mistakes, but it becomes as easy as spelling.

There are several ways to cite described in WP:CITESHORT or the main article Help: Shortened Footnotes.

This is especially helpful in a long complicated article in which a source is referenced in a number of notes

You can see the system in many (but not all) notes in Hinduism or Franz Kafka.

Here are some examples.

For instance, in the Reference section a book would be listed

  • {{cite book |last = Kohn |first =Livia |year = 2009 |title = Introducing Daoism | |publisher = Routledge| location = London ; New York|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=ftiJ2sTwf54C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false |isbn = 9780415439978|ref = harv}},

which would produce

A journal article would be listed

  • {{cite journal |last = Ownby |first =David |authorlink = |title =The Heaven and Earth Society as Popular Religion |journal =The Journal of Asian Studies |volume =54 |issue = 4 |pages =1023-1046 |publisher = |location = |date =1995 |language = |url = http://www.jstor.org/stable/2059958 |jstor = |issn = |doi = 10.2307/2059958 |accessdate = |ref= harv}}

This would produce

Then to make a footnote reference, in the text insert

  • {{sfnb|Kohn|2009| p = 10}} or {{sfnb|Ownby|1995| p = 1023}}

which would produce

The reference section would then be as follows, where you could click the link to get to the full listing (here the listing is above, but obviously in a real article it would be in the Readings section):

References

  1. ^ Kohn (2009), p. 10.
  2. ^ Ownby (1995), p. 1023.

Hope this is helpful! It might be clearer if you look at the edit version of this to see the codes rather than the results.

All the best, ch (talk) 23:02, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation CWH! I'll try to implement this citation method to articles I have contributed to write and potential new articles.--Aethelwolf Emsworth (talk) 12:49, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Of the editors I've come across, you are one of the brightest stars.ch (talk) 16:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

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Please remember to make edit summaries![edit]

As requested here in June, please remember to use edit summaries to describe changes, as per Edit summaries. Thanks! ch (talk) 05:43, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

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Great start at Chinese ancestral religion, but please make edit summaries, follow MOS[edit]

Great start at developing Chinese ancestral religion!

But again, please remember to make edit summaries and remember to cite the article and its author, not the editors of the volume in which it appears!

All the best.ch (talk) 23:51, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, thx for the advice. Actually, I just understand how to write pinyin, we should write it as one word only. But maybe in Fudezhengshen's case, it should be written as Fude Zhengshen, maybe. And about the broken link, well, I wrote the Indonesian article about 3 years ago. Can we do something to fix it? I don't think I can get another typical references. Thank you again Okkisafire (talk) 10:05, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

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