User talk:Afanasovich

Your new category[edit]

I see that you created Category:Ornamental grass today and have been adding it to many articles. I think your addition is well intentioned, but it has a very big problem. How are you deciding what to put in the category? Almost every grass is used for ornamental purposes by someone and so this is a WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. I think you should not add anything else until this has had a chance for discussion. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 14:42, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! In this case, the category Category:Ornamental trees should be abolished.

in my understanding, plants that are sold on the market for the purpose of growing for ornamental purposes are ornamental grasses.

Ornamental grasses are classified as a separate group in garden centers, nurseries, books and websites about gardening. This may not be a worldwide practice, but at the everyday level I encounter this.

I don’t know how common it is everywhere, but in my region not all species are cultivated as an ornamental plant. Most of the herbaceous plants are either weeds or forage plants.

Elymus repens, Avena fatua, Bromus secalinus — I don’t know how it is with you, but here these are malicious weeds and no one will sell them to landscape designers or gardeners. But Imperata cylindrica or Calamagrostis acutiflora 'Karl Foster' reed grass is available in almost any garden center. Afanasovich (talk) 15:01, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing Category:Ornamental trees to my attention. I agree that Ornamental trees should be deleted and I'll get on that as soon as the week discussion on your category is completed. It is important to prevent WP:OVERCAT. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 15:05, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, follow the instructions. I am not an English-speaking person, so I will not defend this category in the English Wikipedia. You may have your own realities.

I think that, for example, the category Insect pests of ornamental plants in Ornamental plants is illogical and inconsistent, and insects do not divide their food plants into ornamental or not. And I have seen enough of such illogicalities. Why are you so outraged by ornamental grasses - I don’t understand

And a Set "Ornamental grasses" as a Subset of "Ornamental plants" are logical and understandable, in my humble opinion. There is a Set "Ornamental plants", there is Set "Herbaceous plant". The intersection of the two criteria produces Ornamental grasses.

The article Ornamental trees does not exist in EngWiki, redirect only; but ornamental grasses do. Afanasovich (talk) 15:21, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ornamental grass has been nominated for deletion[edit]

Category:Ornamental grass has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 14:45, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

November 2023[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, discussion pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_23#Category:Ornamental_grass, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. I think you added my comment with signature in good faith, but do not do that in the future. If you want to quote someone, quote them like This Person, "said things". What you did, copying my signature from the discussion here is not acceptable. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 16:13, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]