User talk:Alex Bernstein
Антонов
[edit]Есть одно англоязычное заявление компании на официальном сайте - источник был добавлен. Russia Today и остальные к официальным источникам не относятся. Компания функционирует. Ликвидирован концерн - группа компаний, в которую входило ГП Антонов, как одно из трех предприятий. Все остальные заводы также функционируют, либо добавляйте авторитетный источник о их ликвидации. Также Википедия не является местом для выяснения страны происхождения ОКБ Антонова - Wikipedia:NOT.
Hello, I'm 176.60.82.3. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks.
- I am sorry, I don't speak Ukrainian/Russian. Can you translate your post to English as I would rather not do it via google translate myself. This is English wiki after all. --Alex Bernstein (talk) 12:59, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- You have posted some references in Ukrainian. All your contributions are: 2014 Ukrainian revolution, Mikhail Lesin, Ukraine, Antonov, CNN controversies. You are forcing Novosibirsk, "what was then Ukrainian Soviet Republic" and other unnecessary USSR-details, despite the article is about present company. I'm pretty confident you don't need Google Translate. My notification has the same meaning as the text you previously removed from the article (about concern as a business entity). I requested the reference from the reliable source, because my was from the official site with clear statement and yours from Russia Today (there was no information about closing down three factories). I consider your actions as vandalism, that's why I've posted an appropriate warning template according to protocol. The warning was in English. I'll make all the steps to Administrator intervention if it's necessary. :) CaterpillarOfDeath (talk) 16:12, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- I don't see any logic in your statement. As I've said already, the statement about company's closure is sourced by 6 sources, not just by Russia Today. (By the way, it's really funny how you contradict yourself by first stating that I had used sources in Ukrainian language to confirm the closure (which makes me Russian for some reason), and then you state that " I requested the reference from the reliable source, because my was from the official site with clear statement and yours from Russia Today "). Plus, I believe you should start your adventure on Wikipedia by googling Wikipedia's rulles and looking up what is and what is notvandalism. Personally, I don't mind, but other wikipedians might find your claims (that those disagreeing with you are vandals) offensive. Cheers --Alex Bernstein (talk) 16:44, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- I don't care who you are. You can add as many references as you like, e.g. 50, it doesn't make them reliable. Antonov.com is reliable. Also, because of your Google News regional settings all your references are from .az, .ua, RT and sites like pravdareport. You are able to add a reference in Ukrainian but can not translate 3 sentences. How did you find those news then? If you search "Antonov liquidation" from e.g. Canada your results will be (except RT) facebook, frontnews, aircargoweek, freenews-en, aircargonews, heavyliftpfi, defenseworld, antonov, technobezz, hushkit in .com, .net, .eu, .tk, .info etc. TLDs. The official site is on the 1st page (on the clear virtual machine using a Canadian proxy). Nobody is interested in Antonov in Canada, but there are still no .ua or pravdareport on the first page (on the 2nd too). I think US users have similar results. It doesn't prove anything (especially with Google) and it was not the point of my notice. Vandalism template was.CaterpillarOfDeath (talk) 19:16, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- > I don't care who you are.
- >Proceeds to write 10 sentences trying to prove that I am Ukrainian
- On the more serious note, do you have any actual new arguments that I hadn't refuted yet, or are you just trying to doxx me now? --Alex Bernstein (talk) 19:25, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- You have posted some references in Ukrainian. All your contributions are: 2014 Ukrainian revolution, Mikhail Lesin, Ukraine, Antonov, CNN controversies. You are forcing Novosibirsk, "what was then Ukrainian Soviet Republic" and other unnecessary USSR-details, despite the article is about present company. I'm pretty confident you don't need Google Translate. My notification has the same meaning as the text you previously removed from the article (about concern as a business entity). I requested the reference from the reliable source, because my was from the official site with clear statement and yours from Russia Today (there was no information about closing down three factories). I consider your actions as vandalism, that's why I've posted an appropriate warning template according to protocol. The warning was in English. I'll make all the steps to Administrator intervention if it's necessary. :) CaterpillarOfDeath (talk) 16:12, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- I am sorry, I don't speak Ukrainian/Russian. Can you translate your post to English as I would rather not do it via google translate myself. This is English wiki after all. --Alex Bernstein (talk) 12:59, 27 July 2017 (UTC)