User talk:Alexped

Welcome!

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Hello and thank you for the nice welcome! My name is Alessandro and I'm from Rome, Italy. I started my article about the "Lara language". It's still a "stub" but will be soon developed. I'd like to ask you if it's possible to index the language and page under the fictional languages or artistic languages. Thank you again! Alexped 14:41, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked using google, and it would appear that this language isn't all that notable - this is likely to result in deletion of the article, especially as you have yourself admitted to being the author of the language. I should warn you that constructed languages are not automatically kept on Wikipedia, just the more notable ones. -- Francs2000 | Talk

14:47, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

About deleting Lara language page

First of all, a (belated) welcome to you, Alessandro! Don't feel discouraged by this whole thing about Lara. Wikipedia is quite a huge machine that keeps pumping 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365¼ days a year; some people can get quite touchy about "obscure" items that in their opinion does not belong here.

Anyway, you wrote:

Thank you for the comment "My dear, judging the (non-/)notability of a constructed language project is one thing, ridiculising language construction is another. Please don't do that. --" in the page of voting for deletion of the page Lara language. I agree that my page should not appear on wikipedia because not notable, but maybe you know that if the work is serious (complete grammar -with a lot of revisions in many years!- and more then 7000 words) it's very hard (and exciting at the same time)! Some people told me that they prefer Lara language to Esperanto, because more easy to speak and learn, and some other who speaks Esperanto created the page about Lara on wikipedia (that no one deleted!) and I thank him for that.

So, thank you again, also for more competent comment in respect to other people in wikipedia.

You are welcome. Well, being a conlanger myself I know all that by experience. Somehow I constantly end up defending the art of conlanging here, and frankly, I am already tired of that. Anyway, I hope you don't feel offended by my "delete" vote. You should understand that it is my passion for the field that prompts me to keep the conlang section as clean as possible, and in order to achieve that, one must sometimes be severe (even when I personally like a language) in order not to give ammunition to those who prefer to have ALL conlang-related articles deleted (and believe me, there are quite a few of those).

Anyway, here are a few suggestions for preserving your article (which I think is excellent, BTW):

You might consider moving the article to your own user space (like this: User:Alexped/Lara). Occasionally pages like that can be subject to a VFD too, but only when the content is extremely rude, insulting, pornographic, etc. Normally, people won't touch it there. In your case I'm sure the article will be safe there.
If you decide to write something on your user page, you may of course say something about Lara too.
You can also create an article on the Conlang Wiki at Wikicities. In fact, I have already taken the liberty to move the contents of Lara language to http://conlang.wikicities.com/wiki/lara (feel of course free to modify or blank it). Another popular wiki for conlangs is http://wiki.frath.net.
Any conlang should have an entry on . Langmaker But Lara is already there, I think.

I hope that helps!

Cheers, IJzeren Jan 10:29, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]