User talk:Amynathanbooks

August 2023

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regarding your edits to Gwynn Oak Park, please use the preview button before you save your edit; this helps you find any errors you have made and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history, as well as helping prevent edit conflicts. Below the edit box is a Show preview button. Pressing this will show you what the article will look like without actually saving it.

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The statement that is currently on the Gwynn Oak page is false. I know because I wrote the book that Wiki uses for its information on Gwynn Oak: "Round and Round Together." I had never read the Wiki page until yesterday when at the Unity Festival at the park marking the 60th Anniversary of the end of segregation there, Rep. Mifune gave a speech in which he quoted the Wiki page, saying that Sharon Langley was the first Black child to go on the park's merry-go-round. He was sharply criticized by the next speaker, Lydia Phinney Wilkins. As is known to anyone who read my book, Lydia and her aunt Mabel Grant Young went on an undercover mission at the park on July 7, 1963, at the request of a Baltimore reporter. They had fair complexions and the ticket takers did not know they were Black. Lydia rode the carousel. They left and told the reporter who wrote a story about their visit to show that nothing bad happened to the park becuase a Black girl took a ride. So the correct way to describe the ride Sharon Langley took on August 28, 1963 is to say that she was the first Black child to go on a ride at the park "on the first day it was open to all." August 28, 1963 was the date Gwynn Oak Amusement Park end segregation, which you would know if YOU had read the book "Round and Round Together: Taking a Merry-go-Round Ride into Civil Rights History." Rep. Mifune was embarrassed about having made that mistake. He claimed "I read it on Wikipedia." So today I checked Wikipedia and saw that you all did get it wrong. I promised Lydia yesterday that I could go on Wikipedia and correct that error. I tried, but then you deleted my correction. I doubt whether you had time to read the pages in my book that I wrote down as a reference. I'd be glad to send you a copy of the book. We gave out dozens of free copies to people at the Festival yesterday. A lot of people know that Wiki led Rep. Mifune to make an incorrect statement. I hope you will take time to check the references and see the the correction I made should stand. Thank you, Amy Nathan, author of "Round and Round Together" and more than 10 other historical books. www.AmyNathanBooks.com. Amynathanbooks (talk) 19:24, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Amynathanbooks. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Gwynn Oak Park, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Jessicapierce (talk) 17:56, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If there are corrections you'd like to see made to this article, it may be easiest just to request those changes through the article's Talk page - this avoids the conflict-of-interest issues which arise from you using your own book as a source. Thanks, Jessicapierce (talk) 17:56, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed your additional edit to Gwynn Oak Park, because it wasn't formatted properly and therefore did not appear as (I think) you intended.

I would absolutely like the article to reflect the correct facts. We are agreed on that point.

However, until you understand how to format correctly, and how to cite sources that are not your own work, please hold back on editing. Your edits have so far caused a bit of a mess. I see that you are trying to improve the article by correcting the facts, but this is not how to do so. We can work together on this - please reply.

Thank you, Jessicapierce (talk) 02:44, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I wrote yesterday asking for advice on how to edit.

But got no help so I tried again, trying to figure out what all those little symbols must mean.

The correction I need to make is very simple -- It involves only adding a few words to one sentence and a new reference.

Wikipedia really should create a clearly written sheet showing how to make corrections.

Just posting a string of symbols < / > etc. is not enough.

So please just tell me "exactly" how to post the correction and the new reference, and I'd be glad to do it.

Once I understand the process clearly, I'd be glad to help you create a "how to" sheet that can help others, too.

That's what I do....write nonfiction books that make diffcult topics understandable to people.

Thanks,

Amy 2600:4040:9105:A00:98C9:FB2B:2F3:870D (talk) 12:08, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is a wealth of "how to get started" information available here - check the sidebar on the left side of the page.

Given your antagonistic approach, I am not willing to spend any more time on this. I will let your edit at Gwynn Oak Park remain (though it may be removed or changed by any other editor), and will again repair your errors.

If you are interested in improving this or any other article, I sincerely advise you to read the conflict-of-interest information I included above, before citing yourself as a source here again. Your contributions here are welcome, but they need to be done by the book. It is up to you to educate yourself on wikipedia procedure and guidelines; otherwise, you risk having your edits removed, or your account potentially blocked. Jessicapierce (talk) 15:25, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not antagonistic. I'm EXHUASTED from spending so many hours yesterday and again today trying to add a few words to one sentence on the Gwynn Oak Park page. I looked at the "help" sections again today and I really found them opaque. So I just tried to "wing it." I also tried to add a second book, a more recent one published in 2020 to the references but I clearly entered that all wrong. I got a big error message on that when I did "Preview". So I deleted entering that second book. But if you'd like to enter the new book to the Reference section, I could send you the details and you or one of the editors could add it. But I'm very very glad to hear that you think I did an adequate-enough job to have the few words I added stay on the page. We're just doing our best to keep this Wikipedia entry accurate. This is an important issue for people in Baltimore. There was a huge "Unity Festival" on Sunday Aug 27, 2023 at that park to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the end of segregation at the amusement park that used to be located there. People care. Here's a link to photos from that Festival: https://www.baltimoresun.com/photos/cng-co-ca-gwynn-oak-park-unity-festival-vg-20230828-f4e6n32u2rc4zcsg54ubof53dm-photogallery.html Amynathanbooks (talk) 15:43, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just added a statement about conflict of interest. I looked to find a form to fill out about conflict of interest but I couldn't find one. So I just added a statement to the correction I added to the Gwynn Oak Park page noting that other than being the author of the only book listed on the page, I have no conflict of interest. I did not write the original post on Wikipedia that listed my book. I do not work for any organization interested in this issue. I spent all day August 27, 2023 giving our free copies of my books about the park, for which I will receive no royalty. The book that is listed as a reference has minimal sales. I only am trying to correct the error that somebody else made on the page because I have done a lot of research on this topic and probably know it better than most people who will read this Wikipedia page. Amynathanbooks (talk) 16:20, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]