User talk:BMurray

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Choi kwang do

CKD is a large international martial art, as big as karate ect, it has already been declined for G11 speedy deletion, This is not the same article as the other you say, kwang Jo Choi was one of the origanl Grand Master of Tae kwon do, he head the choi kwang ddo organisation, so meets notable under AP:ATHLETE see external link choi kwang do has 1000s of students world wide.Thanks 08:14, 31 March 2008 (UTC)~

Comment You must be joking : "as big as karate" ? CKD claims to have only 400 schools. How many schools and karate practitioners do you think there are in the world? Tae Kwon Do has over 60,000,000 practitioners - that would be at least 1,500 times (!!!) more than CKD. --Annonimiac (talk) 04:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Secondly, Kwang Jo Choi was NEVER a Tae Kwon Do (ITF) Grandmaster. He was never even a master. He would need to have 7th Dan to achieve a master's rank. The only vague reference to his rank is 6th Degree (never confirmed by ITF). He self-proclaimed himself a CKD Grandmaster. --Annonimiac (talk) 04:23, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I actully left choi in 2003, I take you have done choi or koo self defence? Koo's self defence is using the techniques from CKD, and so is Dynamic self defence, and Dynamis choi kwon do and so is qi kwon do, they have all left CKD, but still teach Grand Masters techniques. I to am mentioned on the koo's site, but there info is wrong, who knows what happened between the two parties, I have also trained with Master koo. What I do happened and your find this funny is that Marshal perraier and Roger koo had a fight, and are both ment to be stand up fighters, where did they end up, on the floor like school kid lol. 14:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Comment Right I have changed the Kwang Jo Choi page now, to show actual refs, and have worded to be more factual, what you dont understand, is this.. Yes those things are said about kwang Jo Choi on web site, but they need to be reliable. What this meens is not written by those people such as koo ect ie we need to see court details then it woul be fact, let me explain, I could write something about you, post it on th web, then use it as a ref, it would not be true, however if lets say we had a news article ie paper, online news that said something about you, then that could be used, do you understand reliable, These things on koos site probably did happen, but for wikipedia we need actual evidence, it not me being funny, im trying to help you!!! but you need to follows a few simple rules..Look for news article that say this about choi, prove that koo are prominent, this cant be done by just using there website, when using there website and there letter it is self published by them, not you!!! this what we meen.--Diamonddannyboy (talk) 06:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Your right ! it is a list and that is all, it's koo's list, of who he believes, we need proof from the instructors, Im on that list and the info is totally wrong about me, its says I left in 2007, when I left in 2003, I handed the running of my club over to one of my black belt, who then left in 2007, so no the list from koo's site is not factual,again it is just on Koos site from a grudge still going on 18 years later, not very martial art spirit is it!! we need proof from all the other instructors not just koo.--Diamonddannyboy (talk) 15:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Choi kwang do list on the list you say still active with CKMAI do you meen in-active, I wonder how many people have left kartae over the last 20 years or tae kwon do, or Judo or Ju Jit su or any other martial art, im on that list you sent, but your info is wrong..--Diamonddannyboy (talk) 17:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Comment' Im on the Koo's list but I have not left Choi Kwang do, How do explain that? I left for personel reasons in 2003. But never stopped training.--Diamonddannyboy (talk) 17:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I can asure you I am on that list, Diamonddanny is not my real name, now is it !!!--Diamonddannyboy (talk) 20:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I am on the list, I know I am that all that counts, true to ones self, If you think your find diamondannyboy on a CKD list then you truley have issues beyond the reach of any martial art training lol my name is not Danny, or Boy and my surname is not Diamond or Danny or Boy, its very simple my wiki name is that of a family member, im there, but I don't need comformation from you J.P Koo or Roger Koo, and I probably trained with the Koos long before you ever heard of them. Great Tae kwon do guys, but JP does have hold onto a grudge lol.--Diamonddannyboy (talk) 07:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're definately not on the list BMurray (talk) 09:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am on the list of instructor you complete cock

Kwang Jo Choi

I agree strongley with your comments about choi saying he does not teach traditional martial arts but he does teach yoga stretching, but yoga is not a martial art!! Martial meaning war or warlike, it must of been used for some sort of defence, and I don't think you could use yoga, also yoga is proven to be good for the body, and another point Choi kwang do is not a Martial art, has it has never been used in a war!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.210.142.20 (talk) 09:56, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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