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27 February 2017

Question about "see also" listings on Pope Francis[edit]

Hi, Bmclaughlin9 -- First, I want to congratulate you on all the good work you have done on the Pope Francis article!!!! Second, I hope it's ok to write you a note here. I'm not sure if the "intentionally left blank" note means that you welcome notes, but that you erase them after you deal with them...or if there is a separate place to contact you. In any event, I see you deleted the "see also" notes for "List of popes" and "Holy See." I tried to find them before I listed them -- and now I do see that "List of popes" is a link to "266th," the current pope's position in the history of the papacy. However, I still can't seem to find a wikilink to "Holy See." Am I just missing it? (By the way, on the talk page, under "Holy See," I have been trying to gain consensus for including a reference to the Holy See in the lead -- saying that "as such, he is the leader of the worldwide church, the Bishop of Rome with ecclesiastical authority over the Holy See, and the Sovereign for the Vatican City State. So far, there has been no consensus, but I do think this reference to the Holy See should be part of the lead. Do you want to weigh in on that discussion? I think everyone would respect your opinion.... Anyway, please excuse me if I am just missing the Holy See wikilink. I'm getting old and my eyes are getting weak! :) NearTheZoo (talk) 16:48, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your response on my talk page, my friend! I also like to avoid conflict, and try to work things out. If you do get a chance to see the "Holy See" question on the talk page, I think you'll see there is really no conflict -- just an attempt to figure out what might or might not be appropriate. In any event, I am personally filled with hope that Pope Francis will be an extraordinarily important religious leader for our world. We all need examples of men and women of faith...and the eyes of the world will rest upon him. Best wishes, NearTheZoo (talk) 17:18, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
Seek your opinion/assistance in burgeoning edit conflict with user:DeCausa on 3. level subhead Pallotine martyrs segment, which has now twice been deleted from the Relationships with Argentine govt section under Dirty War. Pls advise MrsKrishan (talk) 17:07, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for entering debate, not yet convinced on the merits of your narrow secular POV (aka tyranny of relativism) see User_talk:MrsKrishan#Pope_Francis on (1) what is meant by "relationship" (2) relevance to Petrine keys (3) relevance to dictorship of ideology

Pope John Paul I Page[edit]

Hi Bmclaughlin9. Before the main picture on the Pope John Paul I page was changed to the one of him as a cardinal, there was a previous one of him as pontiff that was used for a while. Here is the link to the picture: Were there any copyright issues with this picture? I'm just trying to wonder why it got taken down and replaced with a picture of Pope John Paul I as a cardinal. Also, I was wondering if it would be possible for you to find a picture of him as pope that can work with all the rules of wikipedia. If there isn't one, I was also wondering if you can switch it with the picture of him with Karol Wojtyla (Pope John Paul II) and use that as the main picture and put the cardinal image in a different part of the document? I would do all of this myself, but not only do I not know how to do it, but I don't know if I'm even allowed to haha. I was just wondering what you thought about this.

Precious again[edit]

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search for the essence of a message
Thank you for the dedication you showed in reviews to get to the core of a topic and say something meaningful and interesting with precision in the shortest possible way, concentrating on the essential, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 74th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

👍 Like -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:13, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Three years ago, you were the 74th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:29, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Four years ago, you were recipient no. 74 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:20, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

You've been conscripted![edit]

Hey B.M.--

Toby Higbie of the UCLA History Dept. is going to have a course in the coming term (begins Tuesday) in which he's going to assign each person in his 100 student class to write or improve a Wikipedia article on the biography of a labor or political leader, union, or other political institution. I've told him I'd try to round up four or five sympathetic Wikipedians to be available to answer any questions the students during the term. The assignment is due May 30 and college students being college students, it can reasonably be expected that the bulk of the queries will happen in the week or two prior to that date. I like your work and your constant activity and thought of you. May I list your WP talk page as a contact address for them? Please do let me know. Best, —Tim /// /// Carrite (talk) 23:30, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'd rather not. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 01:53, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
No worries, thanks. Carrite (talk) 02:06, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.[edit]


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Robert James Carlson neutrality tag[edit]

The neutrality tag was left in the wake of this edit. I will remove the tag. Thanks for reminding me. Quis separabit? 17:01, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Adaptations of Les Misérables[edit]

Hi, there has been a proposal to remove all the images in Adaptations of Les Misérables.

As a major contributor in the article, perhaps you might want to comment here: [1]

Cheers, Azylber (talk) 22:54, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Elizabeth Hawes[edit]

This was the first major article I put together, so I've been sitting by watching your edits with great interest. I'm not going to step on your toes or claim ownership or anything, but just wanted to say, thank you, it's looking good and it's nice to see someone else taking interest in an article I started up, especially such an early one which obviously needed tons of work. All best. Mabalu (talk) 21:09, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Talk:In the Garden of Beasts[edit]

I added this information to the talk page. I dispute that it is trivial, there is too much of a resemblance between the titles. However much more notable ITGOB ended up being, it is wrong to ignore how much these two things resemble each other:

  • An American in Hitler's Berlin
  • An American Family in Hitler's Berlin

Are you alleging this is a mere coincidence? Ranze (talk) 00:34, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Nice work! Hopefully we'll have a stable version of Coalition for Marriage now. You earned this Jenova20 (email) 08:39, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Project September/October[edit]

A break from editing for several weeks. Instead taking some photos along the Via Podiensis, And not even doing much of that. La France profonde à pied. Checking in here only very occasionally. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 16:13, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Dorothy Day[edit]

You've been doing fabulous work there. It's been a pleasure watching it unfold over the last few days.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 21:38, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

You're obviously more familiar with Wikipedia style than I. I linked the reference to John Reed because I'm not sure that the typical reader would understand that Day was using his nickname, since he is better known by his proper/familiar name. The reference that clarifies that is down near the bottom of the page, and only a minority of readers (if newspaper reader habits are any indication) likely get that far beyond lead paragraphs. Would it be okay, do you know, to put the name in parens, i.e., Jack (John) Reed, or would that be equally problematic? I'm only seeking clarity. Thanks for your explanation of your edit, by the way. I just noticed an alert to your edit, by chance, while editing a truly dreadful (and probably long standing) lead paragraph on the Moynihan Secrecy Commission article. Activist (talk) 04:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Easily fixed. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 00:09, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Easy for some. You did good. Activist (talk) 20:57, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

"out of state"[2][edit]

That's a good question, actually: If you get married in Canada, do these states need to rec your marriage as they would a straight marriage? — kwami (talk) 07:47, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Stuart Murphy[edit]

Hi Bmclaughlin9. Will you please discuss your edits on the articles talk page? Coming in and reverting against consensus, and re-adding material that has been determined to violate WP:BLP without discussion can be perceived as being contentious. Thanks, Tiptoety talk 01:57, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

I made no such edits. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 02:07, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
I apologize. I clicked the wrong diff, I was intending to contact the editor who made this edit. Cheers, Tiptoety talk 02:08, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Kitchen v. Herbert oral argument day[edit]

Court of Appelas already set up the dates for hearing oral argumenst for Kitchen v. Herbert and Bishop v. Smith cases. Its 10th and 17th of April. Source is here And i checked it, it's right information So its time to make changes in articles about oral argument days. Don't you think so? (talk) 22:11, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Done. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 22:30, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Run Silent, Run Deep[edit]

Thanks very much for clarifying the story line of Run Silent, Run Deep.

In my view, it matters what happened prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor. There is still no consensus about events leading to the attack on Pearl Harbor. It's clear that Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR)'s administration was embargoing scrap metal and especially oil shipments to Japan. I remember hearing Noam Chomsky on the radio saying that FDR embargoed oil not because of the Nanking Massacre but because US business was not allowed to profit from it.

The Wikipedia article on events leading to the attack on Pearl Harbor makes it fairly clear, I think, that both Japan and FDR considered the oil embargo a provocation to war, even though FDR on Dec. 8, 1941, asked congress to condemn the Dec. 7 "unprovoked attack" on Pearl. This is important for interpreting the news today.

If US submarines had attacked Japanese shipping in Japanese territorial waters, that would have escalated substantially the level of provocation. I don't think that happened, but that's a possible interpretation of the wording of the articles when I went to a library to examine the novel and edited the articles accordingly.

Thanks again for clarifying this. DavidMCEddy (talk) 01:18, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts![edit]

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Your name came up on a Wikipediocracy thread about solid content writers who don't get the credit they deserve and I just wanted to drop by and do a little of that. Thanks for your work on behalf of The Project! Carrite (talk) 17:21, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

José de Anchieta[edit]

There is strong evidence that participates in the ejecuución Anchieta, historical sources are contradictory. See it here: — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:15, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Palmer Raids[edit]

(sorry for my english, im not a native speaker) Hi. I've seen that you edited this article alot, I would appreciate if you'll take care of the "[clarification needed]" that I've placed in the start of "Raids and arrests in January 1920". thnx, Yoav Nachtailer (talk) 07:29, 11 June 2014 (UTC) Yoav Nachtailer (talk) 07:29, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Courtesy notice[edit]

I am challenging the reliability of a source you included in an article with this edit. Please see Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Gregory Douglas and for more information. Thanks! Location (talk) 05:53, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

I made appropriate changes to Carmel Offie. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 21:29, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Cheers! Location (talk) 21:51, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

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Your dedication to updating and improving a wide range of LGBT and other articles is appreciated! You're awesome. Teammm talk
17:31, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanx for your revert[edit]

Thank you for reverting the 9/22 edit of the OKC bombing page. I noticed the anonymous contributor's IP address is registered to Blue Shield of Calfornia, and that whoever has been editing from that address (whether they be one person or more than one person) has been warned, reverted, and blocked many times over the past several years. Although I doubt that Wikipedia has an issue with legitimate edits originating from what seems to me to be a work computer during working hours, I must wonder if Blue Shield of Calfornia (or any other organization) has an issue with one or more of their employees (who are presumably on the clock) spending their time editing Wikipedia. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. Leveretth (talk) 19:31, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

It's best just to move on, unless the vandalism is large-scale. The warnings are scattered over several years. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 19:38, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Timothy R. McVeigh[edit]

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Awesome 10/10 work on making McVeigh v. Cohen a much improved article. hbdragon88 (talk) 02:23, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Info update[edit]

The first sentence in the section says: On September 29, 2014, the U.S. Supreme Court can consider appeals in five cases from Indiana, Oklahoma, Virginia, Wisconsin, and Utah at any of its private conferences, the first of which was held September 29, 2014. Is there any news about it? (today is 30th). — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:28, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

No. When something happens it will be all over the news. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 13:17, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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I believe you deserve this award for all your hard work on the LGBT pages. Thank you for everything! Kumorifox (talk) 18:49, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your edits[edit]

Thank you for re-editing and correcting the changes I made to the Gordon College 'Controversy' section. I have never made an edit before and don't intend to make a habit of it (fortunately). I appreciate the effort you put into making sure that the information is factual and verifiable. It's nice to have someone who knows his/her stuff to oversee these articles.

I notice that the Gordon in Lynn Program is still mentioned in the article. I do not know if this is somehting that you feel should be changed. I just wanted to draw your attention to it in case you think it should be removed.

Regards, JKep — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkep (talkcontribs) 16:03, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

I fixed that. The Lynn Schools program was actually coursework. It just looked like volunteer work. It wasn't extracurricular. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 19:43, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

SSM lawsuits - reply[edit]

I found no mention on filing from Michigan or Kentucky, only from Ohio and Tennessee. Hence why I mentioned that there was no current case from Michigan or Kentucky, as well as Nebraska. What is the status of the MI/KY/Nebraska cases? I'll update the litigation map in that case. Kumorifox (talk) 18:49, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Apologies, I was indeed out of step with how the map was viewed. I assumed the map only documented cases with current filings, meaning DeBoer, for example, isn't represented yet on the map, and I mistakenly extrapolated that to the article. I updated the legend to reflect the filing for certiorari, and that states with legal marriage might still have countering litigation (such as Idaho and Kansas; I cannot find word on Arizona however, would you have a link?), as per your suggestion. Could you review that change and let me know if it is acceptable? Thanks. Kumorifox (talk) 23:58, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

I wish I understood how to reply to you on my page, but I don't. Thanks for the instructions. I'll try it, but make no promises. The program is a bit unwieldy for me. I still don't know how to make the number change in the chart either. But maybe familiarity will eventually produce enlightenment. SusunW (talk) 21:46, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

THANK YOU for changing the chart. My OCD was not liking the incongruity. SusunW (talk) 22:08, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Thomas(ine) Hall has been accepted[edit]

Thomas(ine) Hall, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!

MatthewVanitas (talk) 05:21, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Same-sex marriage in Texas[edit]

New case. — kwami (talk) 23:05, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For your work on SSM articles! :) –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 03:21, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Proposal for Loving[edit]

Please see my proposal for the dispute on the Loving page. I find it to be the best way to represent the relation between Loving and the SSM cases. If it is agreed on, I would ask you to write it out as you seem to be very good at writing in terms of an encyclopedia style. I trust you would know how to keep it accurate but appropriate in size as well. Also, I would like you to give your opinion on it as well. I don't like edit wars and you have been good at contributing to the SSM articles. Thank you. Gabe (talk) 14:09, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Judith Keep[edit]

Hello Bmclaughlin9, I'm mawprov. I noticed you had edited the page on my Aunt, Judith Keep. I was wondering if you could help on a new page as well. She was recently honored by having the new federal courthouse in San Diego named after her and Judge James Carter. I decided to see if this new building was listed on Wikipedia and I discovered it was not. I have never entered or edited anything on Wikipedia, but in a very basic way, I added the new courthouse to the page entitled, List of United States federal courthouses in California. I have no clue how to proceed and I was not able to include a photo. The GSA website has some very nice photos, but I could not figure out how to add it appropriately. Then I found her page and saw that you were the most recent contributor. I would be happy to provide you with the information from the GSA that we received at the recent naming ceremony which was just held on March 30th. Any help to update this info would be greatly appreciated and would make my Uncle very happy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mawprov (talkcontribs) 04:59, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy to help. I'll look into this Thursday or Friday. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 10:49, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Whenever you can is fine. I updated the date to reflect H.R. 1378 being signed into law on 12/18/14. I also have the program from the naming ceremony put on by the GSA on March 30th. Please feel free to email me if you need any info. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mawprov (talkcontribs) 04:15, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Norma (play)[edit]

Working down the list of expired PRODs I found that, although the PROD template had not been removed, new user Overoe (talk) had added a message clearly intended to contest the PROD. So I have dePRODded the article, and transferred the message to the talk page. I have also replaced the dead-link reference with one which works. Over to you in case you want to consider AfD. I would be inclined to keep the article, but I haven't searched for any more refs. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:41, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Alexander Kirk[edit]

About five years ago I searched for information about this interesting diplomat after reading George Kennan's memoir. It was hard going. Recently I looked him up again and discovered this wonderful page, with your many contributions. It is very much appreciated. THANK YOU.

Talk:Edward Perry Warren[edit]

You were involved in the article. I invite you to RM discussion. --George Ho (talk) 01:12, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

I am a bit sad[edit]

that you decided to get technical and remove Lockley and my unpublished manuscript from the Audrey Munson article. I feel some attachment (I understand that no one owns an article) to that article because it was one of the early ones that I started. The manuscript in question was the fruit of decades of research and compilation by Walt and me, eventually being too large to interest a publisher. Still, rules must be obeyed. Right? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 18:31, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

I wasn't following a rule as much as removing material of no possible use to a reader. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 18:41, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
I talk (write, mostly) about that manuscript with folks from wikipedia and elsewhere a lot. It does seem to be of interest and use to some. Carptrash (talk) 19:08, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
But I am not trying to leverage you (or something) into adding it back. i just had a knee jurk reaction to your edit and acted on it - despite drinking no coffee today. Carptrash (talk) 19:13, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Tour de Trump[edit]

Thanks for tagging that sentence in Tour DuPont as requiring a reference. Do you think it's verified now? ;-) Cordless Larry (talk) 15:44, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps a little copy editing when you're done. Everyone deserves a second read. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 16:02, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Maybe, yes! I'm currently pushing to try to qualify the expansion for a DYK nomination. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:14, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your tweaks. Much appreciated. That was a long day! Cordless Larry (talk) 20:51, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Omar Mateen[edit]

Hi dear, you say dad is Pashtun. [3] You know him personally? I not see proofs for Pashtun so why you connect major terrorist to Pashtuns without proofs? "Durand Line" is national political issue in Afghanistan and Pakistan, not ethnic issue. Plz undo your edit until proof is find. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khan3662862 (talkcontribs) 18:08, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Quote: "I don't think religion has any role in what he did," said the father, a Pashtun who moved to New York from Afghanistan in the 1980s and has lived in the U.S. ever since."[1]
  1. ^ Montgomery, Ben; Howard, Samuel; LaForgia, Michael (June 13, 2016). "Before Orlando massacre, killer Omar Mateen visited parents one last time". Tampa Bay Times. Retrieved June 13, 2016. 

Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 18:51, 14 June 2016 (UTC)


Hello! Just an FYI, the date formats on the Bill Cunningham article that you fixed were created by the Wikipedia software, using the "cite web' diablog box. thanks for your other edits on that page! It's a bummer that he has died, he was wonderful journalist.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 01:05, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Hello again! Another note to say I appreciate your edits on Bill Cunningham. I think we might diagree on the donation mention though. The mention if the work being donated holds little value towards establishing 'character'. Artists donate work all the time, for the tax credits, and to get it out of their studios where they've likely been paying to store it for decades. To donate something to a museum carries no inherent significance-- anyone can do it. It's the acceptance of the donation, in the case of an artist's work, that is significiant. Happy editing! HappyValleyEditor (talk) 18:18, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
@HappyValleyEditor: The reader can determine the significance. But only if we include the information. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 19:06, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Sure, but there's a line where things become very trivial. Museum donations are generally only mentioned in the press when they are large. FYI I added some links for runway coverage over at the BC talk page!HappyValleyEditor (talk) 19:10, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

Card. Turkson[edit]

Card. Turkson's nomination to the new post was published yesterday: Il Santo Padre ha nominato Prefetto del nuovo Dicastero per il Servizio dello Sviluppo Umano Integrale Sua Eminenza il Signor Cardinale Peter Kodwo Appiah Turkson, finora Presidente del Pontificio Consiglio della Giustizia e della Pace." Rinunce e nomine, 31.08.2016 Finora is used in Vatican's nominations to denote that the person no longer holds the previous office, in this particular case meaning that Card. Turkson is no longer President of the P.C. for Justice and Peace. Varro (talk) 12:35, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

@Varro: The word finora means "until now" but it need not always mean "until now and no longer". Canon law establishes certain things with respect to the appointment and transfer of bishops that result in that latter meaning for finora (until now and no longer). (Remember Talk:Blase J. Cupich?) But the same in not true in all contexts, and translation must depend upon context, especially when we are dealing with boilerplate language. Turkson is unarguably prefect-designate of the new Dicastery, but there is no reason to believe he has vacated his other offices.
Similarly, the Italian version of La Stampa when reporting on this new dicastery says that the Pontifical Council for Migrants has been "fino ad oggi guidato dal cardinale Antonio Maria Vegliò" or "until today headed by Cardinal Antonio Maria Vegliò". That mirrors the finora characterization, but no one imagines that Vegliò no longer holds that office. It's just the customary way of saying "who has been holding the office of", which would otherwise require an unidiomatic construction in Italian or Latin. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 23:50, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Good work on LGBT rights in Minnesota. Bearian (talk) 01:48, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you so much - I am an absolute beginner so your feedback is really appreciated and it makes perfect sense - the circularity argument. Apologies and many thanks for correcting it. BlueDog13 (talk) 00:58, 1 January 2017 (UTC)


Got it. Made the changes to the pages of the new ones being consecrated this month. I'll keep it in mind when new ones are named. Thanks... Roberto221 (talk) 23:39, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Film#"Lists" vs. prose about lists[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Film#"Lists" vs. prose about lists. Pyxis Solitary (talk) 11:18, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
(Notification per WP:CAN.)

Merger discussion for USS Princeton disaster of 1844[edit]


An article that you have been involved in editing—USS Princeton disaster of 1844—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. RM2KX (talk) 19:16, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi, this is a redo of your original proposal from 2010, for which no consensus was ever reached. The merger banner on the Princeton article was removed prematurely by another user (who didn't even vote in the discussion), so I'm replacing that for now, too. I noted that you, yourself, never technically voted, although it seems clear that you favored Support. I have also not voted yet and I'm still considering, so there may still be a tie and no consensus. If I decide to support, too, we may be able to officially close the second discussion early. RM2KX (talk) 19:16, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Aye, Captain[edit]

Hi Bmclaughlin9. I love what you're doing with USS Princeton (1843), but ya lost me on the latest one on Julia Gardner. You now mention in two places that she married President Tyler, after first stating that she rejected his proposal, so it sounds like conflicting information, without an additional proposal mentioned. Newly removed is her notable connection to one of the deceased, leaving her only importance (at first) as the invitation from Tyler, but presumably he invited a lot of other people not mentioned. Also, we have lost the claim that Tyler was the one who carried her off the ship, so now it feels like the carrier is not relevant at all. I don't want to step on your toes and adjust right now because you're doing awesome! RM2KX (talk) 03:03, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

I'm not done. The idea that Tyler carried her off is likely fiction. She refused his proposals for about a year. Etc. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 03:11, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
I understand. I'm not questioning either of those, just wanted to make sure you noticed. You've obviously got things under control, and I guess you can take an editing break once in a while. 😃 RM2KX (talk) 03:34, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
It's called bedtime. Funny though that I was working on Julia Gardiner Tyler a month ago for completely unrelated reasons, prompted by an episode on the podcast The Memory Palace. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 03:45, 21 March 2017 (UTC)