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Cite Unseen September 2025 updates

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Guild of Copy Editors – September 2025 Newsletter

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Guild of Copy Editors – September 2025 Newsletter

Hello and welcome to the September newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since June.

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Benzene rings with circles in the middle

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Hi I noticed you have been making svg structures showing benzene rings with circles in the middle to show the delocalisation. This departs from the way that these have been traditionally been shown on here and I'd prefer that you show them with alternating single and double bonds. Obviously it is not incorrect as such (actually I draw benzene rings like this if I am drawing them on paper) but I think for Wikipedia purposes it is confusing for laypeople. Is there a particular reason you decided to adopt this style? Meodipt (talk) 03:55, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. There isn't a particular reason. I just thought it was a better way to highlight the delocalisation in aromatic rings. I see what you mean about consistency and clarity for readers. I’m happy to switch back to alternating bond style.
Should I change the already uploaded ones? Ca lmkelp 💬 04:34, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Up to you. It isn't like a strict rule or anything but I think for consistency it is best for all structures on here to adopt the same style. A bit like how you sometimes see people upload structures with oxygen in red, nitrogen in blue and chlorine in green - it isn't wrong exactly, but it just makes those structures stand out as being different from all the others on here, and I think for laypeople without formal training in chemistry this is likely to be confusing. There probably needs to be a chemical structure images manual of style if there isn't already one. Meodipt (talk) 05:53, 25 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

N10 at the N6 page

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Hi Calmkelp,

Thinking more about the recent edits to Hexanitrogen, do you think it's time to factor out a separate allotropes of nitrogen article? That could be a home small content about ones that are not themselves notable enough for articles. And there seems to be general computational work on Nincreasingly large compounds over many years. DMacks (talk) 13:25, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Green tickY I support the proposal.
I think it is the ideal solution for housing the less notable compounds and would gladly help in the process. CalmKelp 💬 16:29, 29 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I got it started by cannibalizing Nitrogen#Allotropes. Looking at each allotrope's own article, I think their lead-sections might be better summaries than that (and also have images), so I started bringing in those chunks, but Real Life is calling at the moment. N10 is indeed interesting, and several differenrt isomers have been studied computationally (including N(N3)3) and a pentazole-dimer). DMacks (talk) 02:08, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Care when using AI

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Calmkelp,

When you upload LLM-generated content to WP, please verify that every source the content cites supports the claim. For example, your submission on showdomycin claims that the antibiotic is

a Sulfhydryl reagent and acts as an irreversible inhibitor of certain enzymes, particularly those with thiol groups, by forming covalent bonds with cysteine residues

citing doi:10.1016/s1874-6047(08)60165-1. But

  • showdomycin definitely isn't a sulfhydryl reagent (it contains no sulfur) and
  • 10.1016/s1874-6047(08)60165-1 doesn't mention showdomycin at all.

I haven't looked at any of the other citations in that article. At least the citation to doi:10.1002/ardp.19793120814 is also suspicious:

  • It's a citation to a book review; I wouldn't be surprised if the LLM intended to cite the book reviewed instead.
  • It supports the vague "disrupting essential metabolic pathways", and
  • The title suggests the book is about tetracyclines. But showdomycin is not a tetracycline antibiotic.

Thanks, Bernanke's Crossbow (talk) 14:09, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

{{tps}} It appears showdomycin is a sulhydryl-binding reagent (reacts with RSH, analogous to maleimide mechanism of action) rather than being a sulhydryl itself. Whether this is a misundertstanding or miswriting by a person or LLM doing typical LLM stupidity I cannot know. DMacks (talk) 16:12, 30 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pretty sure I meant to write that showdomycin reacts with SH groups, not that it is a sulfhydryl reagent itself. It was a phrasing error on my part (not that i intended). I also might have got the refs mixed up. I have corrected it and updated the reference. CalmKelp 💬 08:53, 31 October 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the drive!

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Welcome, welcome, welcome Calmkelp! I'm glad that you are joining the November 2025 drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Cielquiparle (talk) 09:51, 1 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Missing references at Tubercidin

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At Tubercidin, you cited a number of references without including them in the article. Ref 1 (Merck index), ref 2 (Hansch), ref 3 (Suzuki), ref 5 (National Cancer Institute Screening Program Data Summary, Developmental Therapeutics Program), and ref 6 (Compounds Available for Fundamental Research, Volume II-6, Antibiotics, A Program of Upjohn Company Research Laboratory) all currently are short refs with no complete citation. Can you add the full references to the article? They are currently triggering harv/sfn no target errors without the full references. Velayinosu (talk) 01:06, 2 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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