User talk:Ethanstraffin

August 2012

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Bad Lip Reading has been reverted.
Your edit here to Bad Lip Reading was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GaKaGwch0U, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0GutrcKbRM, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTW7Pd1vqc, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii5IUihNuno, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmobkT8IuxM, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gXotGSe_JE, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjaZNYSt7o0, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUcszN8jRB8, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKjn2_Ina5o) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. If the external link you inserted or changed was to a media file (e.g. a sound or video file) on an external server, then note that linking to such files may be subject to Wikipedia's copyright policy, as well as other parts of our external links guideline. If the information you linked to is indeed in violation of copyright, then such information should not be linked to. Please consider using our upload facility to upload a suitable media file, or consider linking to the original.
If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 08:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Bad Lip Reading. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. Kindly, Anderson - what's up? 08:28, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bad Lip Reading

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hi Anderson...I'm honestly puzzled by this, since I didn't actually add any new external links in the revision in question: I only removed a few unnecessary URL components from the existing YouTube links. If the extent of external linking in the "Body of Work" table is unacceptable, then perhaps the format of the entire table (as created by earlier editors) needs to be revisited, and I'd be happy to initiate that discussion on the talk page. However, my reading of the Video links guidelines suggests to me that the existing links should be acceptable. (Please note that the table explicitly does not link to the two BLR videos which have been subject to copyright claims by Universal and EMI.) Either way, simply reverting my changes doesn't correct any potential problems with the table; it just reintroduces a bunch of link cruft that really doesn't need to be there. Thanks, Ethanstraffin (talk) 09:16, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That wasn't how it turned out in the edit history. You undid an edit by a bot that detects and removes inappropriate external links from Wikipedia. Those links were not appropriate.--Kindly, Anderson - what's up? 03:38, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Understood, and yes, I did undo the bot's edit. Note that most of the links in question are still there now that its edit has been reapplied, since they were there before I came along. (As I mentioned, I had simply modified their URLs to remove some unnecessary arguments.) In editing the table, my initial goal was to respect the choices of the editors who originally created it, while (a) cleaning up the formatting and URLs, and (b) adding three new songs (including new external links in the manner of the existing ones). I'd like to find a solution that respects Wikipedia's guidelines while still providing as much useful information as possible. I am wondering if this would be acceptable: I will remove the entire "Link(s)" column of the original table, including the external links that currently point to the the YouTube videos for the original songs. However, I will leave intact the external links to the Bad Lip Reading videos themselves, as included in the "BLR song and link" column. This seems reasonable to me under the guidelines, since these videos are the primary works discussed in the entry (as opposed to standard music videos whose associated songs have their own Wikipedia entries). If this is still unacceptable, I can remove the links to the BLR videos as well, explain to the original editors on the entry's talk page why I did so, and invite them to contact you and/or the bot admins if they have any questions. Could you let me know which of these options would be preferable (or if there's a third one that's even better)? Thanks for your time, Ethanstraffin (talk) 18:24, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

some people would think if you restored those links that you are trying to promote Youtube. it would be good if you didn't add these links, Because people would suspect that you are someone who is here to promote this website, link here.--Kindly, Anderson - what's up? 21:09, 5 August 2012 (UTC).[reply]

Okay. As you know, the Video links page states, "There is no blanket ban on linking to YouTube or other user-submitted video sites through external links or when citing sources. However, such links must abide by various policies and guidelines. Links should be carefully and individually evaluated for inclusion." Having reread those policies and guidelines, I continue to believe strongly that the subset of YouTube links to the BLR videos themselves (as opposed to the videos which they spoof) abide by their terms and should be added to XLinkBot's whitelist within this context. However, given that I am completely new to editing Wikipedia, I will advise the original authors as to why I am removing their links and invite them to reopen the discussion if they wish. Cheers, Ethanstraffin (talk) 22:25, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not an Admin, So i wouldn't recommend using that in the edit summary.--Kindly, Anderson - what's up? 02:03, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page, such as the current discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Your question about my revert

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~~I've left a message on Keilana's talk page. I will get back to you when i find out about the links.--Kindly, Anderson - what's up? 22:41, 3 August 2012 (UTC)~~[reply]

This has been sorted.--Kindly, Anderson - what's up? 02:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]