User talk:EvergreenFir

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Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion[edit]

Hello, EvergreenFir. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Tiny Dancer 48 (talk) 15:21, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

September 2016[edit]

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you purposefully and blatantly harass a fellow Wikipedian, as you did at User talk:NeilN. (talk page stalker) CrashUnderride 18:06, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Really? TimothyJosephWood 18:15, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
Crash Underride, uh, did you click the link in the message? We were having a bit of fun. --NeilN talk to me 18:20, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
@Crash Underride: Lol! Well, I can see why they might template me for that. But as NeilN said, it was meant to be humorous. Poor NeilN had to watch a Bad Girls Club trailer... and bleach is the only good solution. Get the chemistry joke too?! :D EvergreenFir (talk) 18:46, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
I did after, but drinking bleach isn't something I think should be joked about, seeing as how many young people kill themselves that way, or at least attempt to. (talk page stalker) CrashUnderride 20:33, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
@Crash Underride: I gave NeilN bleach for his brain (or his eyes if he preferred), not to drink. I was not recommending suicide. Not something I'd joke about during National Suicide Prevention Awareness Month (or really any other time). I know humor is hard to convey via text and I'm not an artist at it, but I didn't think the post was that literal seeming... EvergreenFir (talk) 20:46, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
@Crash Underride: See r/Eyebleach. TimothyJosephWood 20:57, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ride the Lightning[edit]

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Start date and age favor[edit]

Oh hey there, I was wondering if you could add the Start date and age template from the current "|firstdate = August 1, 1968" to {start date and age|1968|8|1} to correspond to Weekly Shōnen Jump's first publication date? I'd normally ask for an edit request myself, however, the talk page is also protected unfortunately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:54, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

@ Done here! EvergreenFir (talk) 23:07, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
Thank you once again, EvergreenFir. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:00, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Problems with another user[edit]

I'm having problems with another user on Talk:The Bachelor (season 21) and I was hoping you could help me with it. The users name is Starbucks6789. After both of us reverting each others edits back and forth, I went to the talk page and I don't seem to be getting anywhere. Could you please help resolve the discussion? 74thClarkBarHG (talk) 00:30, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Why was I flagged with a "disruptive edit"?[edit]

I am a relatively new user. If you could, please explain and let me know why you flagged that edit as vandalism.

Edit: Forget it. If moderators are going to use bias as a reason to flag someone with vandalism in those types of articles, I'll just stay out of articles all together. Firehawk31329 (talk) 21:27, 15 September 2016 (EST)

@Firehawk31329: I put a welcome template on your talk page. Some things you might want to be sure to read are WP:5P, WP:RS, and WP:NPOV. Your edits are disruptive because you're removing sourced material based on your own personal opinions. Reliable sources call it a false allegation. We don't use false balance or false neutrality for the sake of sounding neutral if sources we're using don't treat the subject neutrally. We are a tertiary source which reflect secondary and primary sources. If those sources by and large have a certain position, we reflect that. For example, we aren't neutral on something like NAMBLA because sources aren't. WP:TRUTH might be a useful essay here. EvergreenFir (talk) 02:20, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Pinging you[edit]

Hey, EvergreenFir. If you'd rather that I not ping you to disputes I'm involved, such as this one and this one, especially those concerning gender matters, just let me know and I will stop doing that. I want to go ahead and be clear that I'm open to your opinions differing from mine. I don't expect you to always agree with me. If some of these cases are simply cases you'd rather not weigh in on, for whatever reason, I understand that too. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:29, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

@Flyer22 Reborn: Hey! I'm sorry! I don't mind you pinging me at all. I did get one of those, opened the tab at home, and forgot to reply since I've been using my work computer mostly. I didn't get the other ping though. Again, sorry for my airheadedness. I totally do not mind you pinging me. If I ever neglect to reply, a message like this will help. I'll try to reply tonight or tomorrow (just finished a 13 hour day). EvergreenFir (talk) 01:44, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
No worries. Just keep in mind what I stated above. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:53, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Voting for lead picture at Donald Trump[edit]

You are invited to participate in the talk-page run-off voting for the lead picture at Donald Trump. --Dervorguilla (talk) 12:40, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

September 2016[edit]

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You've deleted that Africa info at least twice times now XavierItzm (talk) 22:45, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

@XavierItzm: Honey, if I give you a template, you can be assured I know where I stand with the revert count. EvergreenFir (talk) 22:47, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
Oh dear. Just wanted to note that the issue was being discussed on TP and there was no consensus to delete even as you deleted twice. XavierItzm (talk) 22:50, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
No consensus puts the burden on inclusion. See WP:NOCONSENSUS and WP:BRD. EvergreenFir (talk) 22:51, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Shooting of Terence Crutcher[edit]

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Please comment on Talk:Galway United F.C.[edit]

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Doug and I together blocked your Dancer. I assume there will be more on the SPI; I left a note on the ArbCom mailing list as well. One of the IPs pointed to another sockmaster, but I think that was a false trail. Take care, Drmies (talk) 19:35, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Drmies! Rather expected the outburst. Got to add to my collection of insults! Curious if that one IP was similar to Ralph Roadrash (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) at all. They were attributed to another sock, but look like Mikemikev from behavior. EvergreenFir (talk) 21:03, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
I do wonder how Mike V got his name. Tiptoety, you may be interested in this as well. How do you remember that from a year ago? Yes, it looks like Mikemikev. Anyway, your User:Ralph Roadrash links to User:Quack Hunter links to User:Goblin Face links, via the SPI, to User:Anglo Pyramidologist. Is that, in the end, the same racist? Drmies (talk) 00:39, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
@Drmies: I wish my memory were that good. I saw User:Ralph Roadrash while collecting diffs on Talk:Race (human categorization) for the Tiny Dancer/Mikemikev SPI and was very surprised that Ralph Roadrash was tagged under another sockmaster. Might be worth digging into? There's no shortage of racists on the internet, so I wouldn't be shocked if they are not the same. But I wouldn't be shocked if they are... EvergreenFir (talk) 00:43, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
But...but...racism is over! Drmies (talk) 00:57, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
That linked info is totally false, Drmies, the Scalia quotes are false, the source is unreliable, it's all BS.Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:11, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
But who better an authority to declare racism over than an Italian? TimothyJosephWood 01:29, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Fuck. Racism is NOT over??? It was all a hoax? Drmies (talk) 01:36, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Snobby elitism and racism are as inherent in humanity as just about anything else. John Adams said it pretty well: "I believe there is no one Principle, which predominates in human Nature so much in every Stage of Life, from the Cradle to the Grave, in Males and females, old and young, black and white, rich and poor, high and low, as this Passion for Superiority." And my Adams quote is better than your non-quote from Scalia, you lowly internet denizen.😜Anythingyouwant (talk) 01:51, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Right. Well, I saw it on the internet. That is, I googled it and copied the first hit that would load quickly on my old netbook. Argue with that. Next thing you know you're telling me the Civil War was fought over slavery or that 9/11 was not an inside job. EvergreenFir, I think some better control over your talk page is necessary, lest all kinds of crazy theories seep into mainspace. Drmies (talk) 03:55, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
😂Anythingyouwant (talk) 11:21, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Lol how'd I miss this? I hope that they seeped well though. EvergreenFir (talk) 07:03, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

I can't believe that in 2016 a racist is writing about race. Was the racist trying to claim races are not equal? Obviously they are equal. Anyone who says otherwise is a racist. QED. Racists just don't understand logic. The racists Richard Chepstow (talk) 13:27, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Hark, Drmies and Doug Weller! A hear the call of a duck upon mine talk page! EvergreenFir (talk) 16:11, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
DeltaQuad, can I ask you to look at this one? You're cleverer. Drmies (talk) 21:17, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
(Already blocked since CU confirms them as a sock of Tiny Dancer--and any old music will do.) Drmies (talk) 21:21, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks all. Although Tiny Dancer is a sock of MikemmikevDoug Weller talk 21:42, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Dispute resolution[edit]

You say this is appropriate for WP:ANI when previous attempts in other venues have failed. Why then do you say my post to ANI is disruptive editing? (talk) 06:56, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Copy-pasting tons of past conversations into ANI is not appropriate. If you have a specific issue, start a fresh new thread. If this has already been addressed by ANI, then watch out for WP:BOOMERANG. EvergreenFir (talk) 07:02, 24 September 2016 (UTC)