User talk:Evremonde

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June 2020[edit]

Information icon Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Re-instating unreferenced material - could if you persist - see you blocked JarrahTree 03:59, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

English Wikipedia[edit]

Insists upon WP:RS, and WP:CITE - moving from Indonesian wikipedia gives no credence and no capacity to WP:V any of the text in the articles you have reverted to the state of WP:OR.

Be very very careful, as WP:3RR can trap you even more - unless you find WP:RS or WP:CITE for the material you have reinstated - hati hati !

Kalau bingung[edit]

Indonesian wikipedia accepts material that cannot be WP:V as no WP:CITE or WP:RS are enforced or utilised.

English wikipedia takes those matters seriously - adding material with no citation or reference means the material is WP:OR

Please note that the Indonesian project on English wikipedia abides by the wider community requirement - specially biographies of people, living or dead - the assertions or claims must be varifiable.

Please take the suggestions and links above seriously and carefully - the Pakubuwono line of rulers are notable, and their inherent linkages to wider Javanese and Indonesian history is important, they do not deserve one line biogrophies - but when I created them, I assumed that they would be populated/further expanded in the terms of how wikipedia works WP:ABOUT and WP:NOT - in other words, with adequate referencing so that cerita rakyat dari wong jawa might not be the way the material is expanded. This is an online encyclopedia. JarrahTree 04:14, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well worth having a look at Plered - and see how the references/citations work - there is no WP:OR in that article at all - it is tied to references and citations and - if someone made the effort each pakubuwono article could be the same... JarrahTree 05:31, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]