User talk:Farther Spacing

Hello from Nick

Hello, Farther Spacing, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Gamerflicks

Hi there. Can you please stop adding links to Gamerflicks for several articles and computer games. The links added to Wikipedia must add encyclopaedic content and be useful in addition to the articles themselves. Unfortunately the links you are adding are not adding to the encyclopaedia in a constructive way. Wikipedia is not a random collection of all related links, it is an encyclopaedia. PLease read WP:External links before adding any more external links. Ben W Bell talk 23:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay go ahead and add that, I'll not remove it. We'll see what the rest of the community says. Just make sure you use a descriptive edit summary for the edit (the text box above the "Save Page", "Show Preview" and "Show Changes" buttons). Ben W Bell talk 08:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.--Crossmr 14:52, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you resume the addition of these links, which violate the external links policy, your account will be blocked from editing. — Carl (CBM · talk) 19:08, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why links to outside websites like Mobygames, IMDB and other websites aren't classified under a "directory of links" too and the links I suggest are. The definition isn't clear enough. Why are references to articles, interviews and news items at third party sites kept in the body of other video game movies but the links to a website that specializes in reporting about video games movies considered a form of spam? Did the person that looked at the links I suggested not see that they are relevant to the discussion of the Wikipedia page? It seems that the Wiki editors policy is not very clear and certain third party sites are being given preferential treatment for no discerable reason. Please explain why a link to Mobygames product listing is considered fine but a link to a Gamerflicks database page is not.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Farther Spacing (talk • contribs) 15:46, June 17, 2007.

Quite simply because that is all your account is used for. Such linking is looked more favourably upon an established editor where its clear they may not have an agenda to try and promote a certain site, or anything of that nature. A brand new editor showing up and linking to a 3rd party site with the vast majority of edits leads one to believe that they may have some kind of affiliation with the site and are simply trying to promote it. We assume good faith, but not in the face of evidence to the contrary. Editors here recognize that many people see wikipedia articles as traffic generators and there is no shortage of people trying to use it as such. You were asked once not to do it, and you simply repeated the behaviour on your return. had you spent the interim improving articles, and adding content it would look much less suspicious. More often than not its not the site that is added but who is adding it and how that makes editors here question whether it belongs.--Crossmr 01:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ah thank you Crossmr, at least that is a better defined answer instead of what I got earlier. What you are saying is that it is a level of trust that determines whether there is an agenda behind a link or entry on the Wiki. I thought that once a link or entry was submitted by anyone a senior editor would check the information to see if it was valid or not. New contributors are therefore looked down on as being suspicious especially if the links or content is coming from one location. I had been hoping that the submission process proceeded differently. The Wiki must receive a lot of spam.

It does. Everyone and their dog assumes that wikipedia articles are dumping grounds for any remotely related link. Especially video game articles, and other interests that are popular on the internet. those topics get a lot of brand new fan site spam, as well as new commercial ventures think that wikipedia should be available to help them drive traffic to their new site and drive up their hit count. As it is, gamerflicks looks like its about 3-6 months old and given that its being added by what we call a single purpose account (an account who's edits seem to focus around 1 specific activity, or subject) and an Alexa rank not in the top 100,000 [1], its got spam written all over it. The site has been blacklisted for linking by an automated bot, and unless it cracks the top 100,000 or gains some serious notability, its unlikely to be removed from that list. If its not watched carefully, the external links section of an article can grow ridiculously huge, especially on lower traffic articles because with not many people watching them, they sneak in. You go to an article and realize no one has attended it, and its got 15 links to random forums and gaming sites who's traffic levels appear to be in the low 10s per day.--Crossmr 04:56, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again Crossmr. I appreciate the explanation as to how the Wiki works and the criteria used to judge websites appropriate for the Wiki. All I can say is that when I have something else to add for a different category beside the video game subjects I will and see what happens. I do want to see the Wikipedia work to the best it can be.

Requesting Unblocking

I see that my account has been blocked from editing Wiki pages. I've requested an unblock from the Wiki editor that blocked me so I can suggest an new edit for an existing Wiki page.

All of your edits up until now have been linking to another website. You have been blocked for spamming.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 21:37, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since I'm blocked from adding new content to the Wiki, someone can add the release date for the film "Martian Child" in its Wiki page. Here's proof for the film's release date via its trailer page: http://www.apple.com/trailers/newline/martianchild/

Do what you will with the info, I've done my part.

Second Request

It's been a few days since I submitted the new information for Wiki's "Martian Child" page. If an editor is not going to append the page then let me do it. I respectfully ask again that the block against my account be lifted. I don't see what the problem is; any Wiki editor will be able to see what changes I make to a Wiki page and if it's considered spamming the account can be permanently blocked.