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Happy editing! Dr.Pinsky (talk) 08:20, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Doulgas Dryburgh

Hello, please refrain from changing sourced information from this article. If there is anything incorrect, please replace it with PROPERLY SOURCED INFORMATION. Failure to do so will result in getting blocked from Wikipedia, especially considering I highly suspect sockpuppetry on your part, which is a big no-no on Wikipedia. -- Earl Andrew - talk 13:42, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would also add that removing sourced information which is also what you're doing is not good either. I highly suspect you are Douglas Dryburgh himself, and it's frowned upon to be editing your own articles, especially to make yourself look good. This constitutes POV editing, and is another big no-no. If you do this again, you will be blocked. -- Earl Andrew - talk 13:45, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You clearly have a fascination with Dryburgh! Bizarre considering this is so long ago, so what is your interest? Fasterhigherstronger (talk) 13:49, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am one of the main curling contributors at Wikipedia. There is nothing special about this article in particular. It was put up for deletion and I wanted it kept, so I expanded it with proper sources. -- Earl Andrew - talk 13:51, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK thanks for talking. Are you Scottish and do you hold a grudge for some reason?

This prob is you're spinning it negatively and that's not appropriate: like saying 7 out of 8 and 12 out of 12 is just miserable reporting and unnecessary. You'll find if you do your research correctly that Dryburgh only played 6 of the 11 games in 2005 at the worlds . This headline when you google is Irish Olypic Curler - that's incorrect. It's British olympic Curler. Also born in Kirkcaldy not Inverness! Your spin on Grant McPherson is unfair and inappropriate. Fasterhigherstronger (talk) 13:59, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am Canadian. Anyway, Wikipedia articles are not meant to be one-sided. Just look at the article on Donald Trump! This isn't a LinkedIn profile. Articles should have a balanced point of view, which means sometimes having "negative" attributes. Indicating poor performances isn't "miserable reporting", it's factual statements. The lede of the article does not state Dryburgh is an Irish Olympic curler, but rather Scottish-Irish, as he has competed for both nations at the international level. If Dryburgh was born in Kirkcaldy, then provide proof! Most reliable sources indicate Inverness. If that's wrong, take it up with those sources. As for McPherson, again what is stated is a factual statement backed up with citations. Wikipedia is not a resume.-- Earl Andrew - talk 14:34, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. If you Google Douglas Dryburgh (and look at the picture on the right hand side) and not go into the article - it now comes up with Irish Olympian - check it out.

That sounds like a Google problem, not Wikipedia

We are impressed with some of the articles you managed to retrieve btw... we never knew some of those existed! But please understand that there are now several of us watching this/your behaviour - all think this is poor on your side. The question for us is, what authority do you (or anyone) have to chose which the article(s) you reference? Why should you be/who are you to be the arbiter of which references/ articles you chose to publish? For your information we are English/Scottish and Irish. So, what is your agenda? Just vindicitive?

Please don't threaten me. I am an admin at Wikipedia, and if I suspect any abuse on your end, I can have you blocked very easily. Continuing to add unsourced information or removing sourced information can also resort in your blocking. Anyway, I don't have any agenda other than to have better curling articles on Wikipedia. I am not vindictive, I am just trying to ensure that articles are written from a neutral point of view. Please read WP:NPOV for more information, because apparently my explanation has fallen deaf ears

Dryburgh is born in Kirkcaldy - any other reference is just plain wrong as is the birthday, which is 30 Jan 66 - the headline has 30 Jun - again this is on the start before you go into the article. We see you've changed this - to either /or Inverness/Kirkcaldy - that just looks messy - you're over thinking this! It's Kirkcaldy.

If Dryburgh was born in Kirkcaldy PROVIDE A SOURCE. I've spent hours looking for sources on this article, the least you can do is find one source to prove this. CurlingZone is the only source I can find, and everything else says Inverness, including the British Olympic Committee. I have found CZ to be less reliable than other sources, so you're going to have to find a better source.

If you are insistant on continuing to refer to the 2005 performance as 'last place' (for example) or 12th out of 12. // 7th out of 8...then why haven't you reflected this on other articles for other of his team mates? ie Peter Wilson's wiki? At the 2005 world's you are missing key information about the fact that Dryburgh didn't play half the tournament (check the team sheets out). So the context is missing - you wouldn't realise that, but please change.

Again, please PROVIDE A SOURCE. If I came across one myself, I would've added it in.

If you were/are a curler (which we assume you are) and in the spirit of the game - how would you feel if you were McPherson and had this published. What if McPherson had/has mental health issues? There are many articles on McPherson, which are positive too!

The note about McPherson exists to explain why it was Dryburgh that represented Scotland that year rather than him. Again, Wikipedia isn't sugar coated. I implore you to read WP:NPOV.

If it's all too difficult then just taken down the article... we will change to make it correct and it's just as much a fact to finish 12th as 12 out of 12, or last place. The point is you don't say that the person who was 3rd was 3rd out of 12? or 1st out of 12 or 5th out of 12 - do you? So you are making a negative point by stating that. Also, you might like to check that when the olympic association sends olympians their certificate they state the position one finishes in - ie 7th place. not 7th out of 8. It was/is know as the most crueling British olympic selection - search that up; and the olympic finals! Andy Capp and Peter Lindholm (who finish 6th and 8th respectively) don't have the same negative connotation on their wiki pages - so you are not applying parity! So just be sensible and please change it. Thanks Fasterhigherstronger (talk) 15:56, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are cherry picking articles to prove your point. There are articles about other curlers that do list how many teams there were. Context is key here, it is important for people to know how many teams there were so they know how well the team did compared to everyone else.

I've responded to your points in bold above. -- Earl Andrew - talk 19:45, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]