User talk:Forlorngames
I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Lands of Hope, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}}
notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Wafulz 20:10, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
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The article Lands Of Hope Redemption has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- No claim of notability or significance given, only references are from game developer
While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}}
will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. 331dot (talk) 12:54, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Your username
[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw that you edited or created Land of Hope, and I noticed that your username, "Forlorngames", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Trammel Museum of Art". However, you are invited to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you personally, such as "Mark at WidgetsUSA", "Jack Smith at the XY Foundation", and "WidgetFan87".
Please also note that Wikipedia does not allow accounts to be shared by multiple people, and that you may not advocate for or promote any company, group, organization, product, or website, regardless of your username. Moreover, I recommend that you read our conflict of interest guideline. If you are a single individual and are willing to contribute to Wikipedia in an unbiased manner, please create a new account or request a username change that complies with our username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. 331dot (talk) 12:55, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Nomination of Lands Of Hope Redemption for deletion
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Lands Of Hope Redemption is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lands Of Hope Redemption until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Woodroar (talk) 16:40, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
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- Why can't I edit Wikipedia?
Your account's edits and/or username indicate that it is being used on behalf of a company, group, website or organization for purposes of promotion and/or publicity. The edits may have violated one or more of our rules on spamming, which include: adding inappropriate external links, posting advertisements and using Wikipedia for promotion. Wikipedia has many articles on companies, groups, and organizations, but such groups are generally discouraged from using Wikipedia to write about themselves. In addition, usernames like yours are disallowed under our username policy.
- Am I allowed to make these edits if I change my username?
Probably not, although if you can demonstrate a pattern of future editing in strict accordance with our neutral point of view policy, you may be granted this right. See Wikipedia's FAQ for Organizations for a helpful list of frequently asked questions by people in your position. Also, review the conflict of interest guidance to see the kinds of limitations you would have to obey if you did want to continue editing about your company, group, organization, or clients. If this does not fit in with your goals, then you will not be allowed to edit Wikipedia again.
- What can I do now?
If you have no interest in writing about some other topic than your organization, group, company, or product, you may consider using one of the many websites that allow this instead.
If you do intend to make useful contributions here about some other topic, you must convince a Wikipedia administrator that you mean it. To that end, please do the following:
- Add the text
{{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}}
on your user talk page. - Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:Listusers to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy.
- Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In this reason, you must:
- Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the edits for which you were blocked.
- Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.
{{unblock|Your reason here}}
below, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Daniel Case (talk) 17:46, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
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Forlorngames (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Requested username:
Request reason:
Decline reason:
To be fair you made only two edits in April 2007, and then none at all until today!--Anthony Bradbury"talk" 19:58, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes and on the strength of the way my edits and additions seem to have been met today it may be another seven years before I try again ....
- I don't want that, but your edits should be done in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines, such as the conflict of interest policy. 331dot (talk) 20:04, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
- Fair enough but I don't feel like my edits have done anything but provide reliable information using the references and sources that are available. I did not seek to market my products, merely provide a reliable source of relevant information that you might find in an encyclopedia. Which to my knowledge is one of the core reasons Wikipedia got started. I realize Wikipedia probably has hundreds of thousands of pages made on a daily basis and policing that is a hard task but the Lands of Hope article I created 7 years ago has existed just fine on Wikipedia for 7 years ago, admittedly the game that the article relates to closed down a few years ago but now all of a sudden you mysteriously flag it for deletion it almost feels like you have a vendetta against me. I'm not an evil person :P
- There are 21million+ registered users, and 33million+ pages on Wikipedia. We cannot police them all, as you say. Often, it takes someone editing "again" to catch both current and past issues. We also have a process against blocking usernames that are not currently contributing - so when you disappeared, there was no reason to block. Now that you're back, all bets are off. Nobody is suggesting you're an "evil person" - we deal with thousands of improper pages and hundreds of improper usernames per day. A block like this is not punishment, it's simply saying "you agreed to some rules on this private website, and we'd like you to stop breaking them please". You'll now only be unblocked if a) you change the username (which you're requesting above), b) and you agree to not write about topics you're directly involved in - pretty friendly and simple, really the panda ₯’ 09:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- With all due respect what is wrong with changing my name from ForlornGames to UnhappyDecius123 as a username (it does not appear to be in use)? - I could understand if my request was for "UnhappyAtWikiPedia...." but it is not. It was an attempt at highlighting my mood Unhappy, in the same way your name is Dangerous. Or are we not allowed to have numbers in a username? - clarification please. Forlorngames
- Because it gives the impression that your account is the official account of Forlorn Games, to be used for promotional purposes or one to which multiple people would have access, as explained above. It's the same reason that the account User:Microsoft is indefinitely blocked, and User:Sony would be if were ever created. It's nothing personal against you or your products. Woodroar (talk) 19:30, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- I am requesting my name be changed to UnhappyDecius123 the name Decius is not referenced in any of the Lands of Hope articles on Wikipedia so how would someone know that Decius is Forlorngames? Forlorngames
- I'm sorry, perhaps I misunderstood you. User:Forlorngames is against policy.
User:UnhappyDecius123 looks good and has no connection to the games, as you said. It appears that your username change was declined as it's easier for you to create a new account as User:UnhappyDecius123. I don't claim to know everything involved in a name change, but I do know that it's complicated and can take quite some time, so it's often not done for users with few edits. I hope this helps! Cheers!Woodroar (talk) 22:34, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, perhaps I misunderstood you. User:Forlorngames is against policy.
- I am requesting my name be changed to UnhappyDecius123 the name Decius is not referenced in any of the Lands of Hope articles on Wikipedia so how would someone know that Decius is Forlorngames? Forlorngames
- Because it gives the impression that your account is the official account of Forlorn Games, to be used for promotional purposes or one to which multiple people would have access, as explained above. It's the same reason that the account User:Microsoft is indefinitely blocked, and User:Sony would be if were ever created. It's nothing personal against you or your products. Woodroar (talk) 19:30, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- With all due respect what is wrong with changing my name from ForlornGames to UnhappyDecius123 as a username (it does not appear to be in use)? - I could understand if my request was for "UnhappyAtWikiPedia...." but it is not. It was an attempt at highlighting my mood Unhappy, in the same way your name is Dangerous. Or are we not allowed to have numbers in a username? - clarification please. Forlorngames
- There are 21million+ registered users, and 33million+ pages on Wikipedia. We cannot police them all, as you say. Often, it takes someone editing "again" to catch both current and past issues. We also have a process against blocking usernames that are not currently contributing - so when you disappeared, there was no reason to block. Now that you're back, all bets are off. Nobody is suggesting you're an "evil person" - we deal with thousands of improper pages and hundreds of improper usernames per day. A block like this is not punishment, it's simply saying "you agreed to some rules on this private website, and we'd like you to stop breaking them please". You'll now only be unblocked if a) you change the username (which you're requesting above), b) and you agree to not write about topics you're directly involved in - pretty friendly and simple, really the panda ₯’ 09:58, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
- Fair enough but I don't feel like my edits have done anything but provide reliable information using the references and sources that are available. I did not seek to market my products, merely provide a reliable source of relevant information that you might find in an encyclopedia. Which to my knowledge is one of the core reasons Wikipedia got started. I realize Wikipedia probably has hundreds of thousands of pages made on a daily basis and policing that is a hard task but the Lands of Hope article I created 7 years ago has existed just fine on Wikipedia for 7 years ago, admittedly the game that the article relates to closed down a few years ago but now all of a sudden you mysteriously flag it for deletion it almost feels like you have a vendetta against me. I'm not an evil person :P
- Again, the chosen username is not an issue. The issue remains: you agreed to not edits where you have COI. As part of any corporate ethics, a business and its employees undertake everything from non-disclosure agreements, to agreeing to not reuse code, etc. You made an ethical agreement when you signed up to this private website: you agreed to not directly edit topics where you have COI. Wikipedia works on community, trust, and people sticking with their ethics. So, we're still waiting to see if you intend to be ethical, or not ... and you have yet to address that aspect correctly. the panda ₯’ 10:59, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- I have struck some comments above. As DangerousPanda pointed out, the username is one issue, but the promotional edits are another. If you are unblocked, your username may be changed or the admin may direct you to create another account. Please do not create another account at this time as I suggested above until you are unblocked. Woodroar (talk) 17:18, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Frankly after listening to you all form opinions of my character and moral / ethical nature I am perfectly happy for you all to delete my user account or leave it banned and then delete my articles and I will quite happily not return to Wikipedia, nor make a new account because at the end of the day I don't think it is reasonable for folks to judge others without knowing them. Good bye!. Forlorngames
- I have struck some comments above. As DangerousPanda pointed out, the username is one issue, but the promotional edits are another. If you are unblocked, your username may be changed or the admin may direct you to create another account. Please do not create another account at this time as I suggested above until you are unblocked. Woodroar (talk) 17:18, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
- Again, the chosen username is not an issue. The issue remains: you agreed to not edits where you have COI. As part of any corporate ethics, a business and its employees undertake everything from non-disclosure agreements, to agreeing to not reuse code, etc. You made an ethical agreement when you signed up to this private website: you agreed to not directly edit topics where you have COI. Wikipedia works on community, trust, and people sticking with their ethics. So, we're still waiting to see if you intend to be ethical, or not ... and you have yet to address that aspect correctly. the panda ₯’ 10:59, 27 July 2014 (UTC)