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Welcome![edit]

Hello, IWCommunications, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was IslandWood, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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June 2019[edit]

There have been two problems with this account: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business or other organisation or group or a web site, which is also against policy, as an account must be for just one person. Because of those problems, the account has been blocked indefinitely from editing. Additionally, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for your contributions to Wikipedia, you must disclose who is paying you to edit.

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This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

IWCommunications (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Request reason:

Sorry, I didn't realize we couldn't make updates to our organization's page. Please unblock me so that I can submit the request and evidence in Talk that the corrections be made. Our organization has changed and evolved in recent years. Some things on the page are no longer true or active. Or if you can just evaluate our requested changes that would be fine. Thank you for anything you can do to help us update the description of our organization. As a nonprofit our Wikipedia description is an important tool for helping people understand what we do and get involved in our work. While I understand the need to avoid promotional sounding language, at a minimum we need our description to be accurate and appreciate anything you can do to help with these corrections and clarifications. IWCommunications (talk) 21:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

The proposed new username is acceptable.(though it's taken, so you will need to choose something else) However, the other elements of the block still need to be addressed. To be unblocked:

If you have no interest in editing Wikipedia beyond writing about your organization, then you will not be unblocked. If this is the case, I recommend you consider alternative outlets.

So we know understanding is mutual, please state your understanding/response to each item in your own words.

I'm sorry that this message could not be more favorable. 331dot (talk) 09:55, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would add that Wikipedia, frankly, is not concerned with whether an article is helpful to the subject or not. Telling the world about your organization should be done on its own website; Wikipedia is only interested in what independent reliable sources state about article subjects, and has no interest in what the subject wants to say about itself. If there is incorrect information in an article, we want to know what it is, but you will need independent sources to support it, not just what the organization wants to say. As I note above, if you are just here to contribute about your own organization, you won't be unblocked. If you want to be a general, individual Wikipedia contributor, please proceed as I state above. 331dot (talk) 09:58, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

rename and reblock[edit]

We already have a "kristinej ". Please choose again. If I'm not around, any other admin may unblock at their discretion. You should remove the edit requests from the unblock request. The edit requests should be under a 2nd header, but right now let's focus on unblocking. Please bear in mind that all content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 22:36, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, we generally don't care what subjects say about themselves. I see the ref list at the bottom. It's all sourced to the subject. Anyway, that edit request can be made after unblocking.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 22:38, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please see User:Dlohcierekim/decline promo for my usual unblock conditions for promotional editing by an editor named for a company.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 22:40, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request[edit]

{{request edit}}

Moved to Talk:IslandWood
 – The portion of this unblock request dealing with requested changes to the IslandWood article has been copied to Talk:IslandWood as a new edit request.  Spintendo  01:19, 4 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here are six issues I’m hoping you can help me with:

Problem #1: Current: IslandWood is a non-profit outdoor learning center located on Bainbridge Island in Washington. Why This Needs to be Revised: We are an organization (not a center) with programs and offices in Seattle, Woodinville, and Bainbridge Island, WA. We have a campus on Bainbridge Island but serve about twice as many students in our other locations as we do on Bainbridge. Citation: [1]. Also we do not just do “outdoor learning.” We have classroom curriculum [2] as well and teacher preparation programs [3]. The term “environmental education” is more accurate in describing what we do. Proposed revision: IslandWood is a non-profit environmental education organization with programs on Bainbridge Island, Seattle, and Woodinville in Washington.

Problem #2: Current: It was founded in 2001 to provide environmental education for young people living in King and Kitsap Counties. Why This Needs to be Revised: We were founded in 2000 and started programs in 2002. We never just served Kitsap and King County, but also schools in Snohomish, Pierce, Mason, Thurston counties – basically most of the Puget Sound region. Citation: [4] Also, we were founded to increase access to these types of learning opportunities for kids in this region. That should be included. Our work has expanded since then to include other things, but that was why we were initially founded so for accuracy should be mentioned. Proposed revision: It was founded in 2000 to increase access to outdoor experiential learning opportunities for young people living in the Puget Sound area.

Problem #3: Current: In 2010, IslandWood and Homewaters joined forces, giving IslandWood a key component in urban environmental education. In 2012, IslandWood was selected to lead the education programs at Brightwater Treatment Plant[1] in Woodinville, WA. Why This Needs to be Revised: This information belongs in the history section. The Homewaters brand name hasn’t existed for years and it is irrelevant to the description of what IslandWood is now (and also confusing for people who want to know about what we do). Also, IslandWood’s first contract with King County’s Brightwater treatment plant was signed in 2011 NOT 2012. Proposed revision: Move to history section and correct date of Brightwater deal from 2012 to 2011.

Problem #4: Current: IslandWood's core program on Bainbridge Island is called the School Overnight Program. Approximately 4000 fourth, fifth and sixth grade students attend the program each year.[2]They are taught by residential graduate students taking part in the Graduate Residency in Education, Environment and Community (EEC),[3] which is offered in partnership with the University of Washington. Why This Needs to be Revised: This was true in 2010, it’s not true anymore. Today we serve nearly twice as many students in our school programs in Seattle and Woodinville (about 7,000) [5] as we do on Bainbridge Island in our School Overnight Program (about 4,400) [6]. Those programs in Seattle and Woodinville are now as “core” as our School Overnight Program. Also, while our graduate students do teach in the School Overnight Program, they don’t do so exclusively (we have staff instructors as well). This also doesn’t mention our teacher professional development programs and workshops which have become an important, and state funded, part of our work. Also the name of our graduate program is incorrect - should be Graduate Program in Education for Environment and Community [7]. Proposed revision: IslandWood offers several school programs for 3rd-8th graders including the four-day School Overnight Program on its campus on Bainbridge Island, day programs at the Brightwater Wastewater Treatment Center in Woodinville and in Seattle watersheds, and a 4th grade stormwater science and engineering unit. IslandWood also runs the Graduate Program in Education for Environment and Community (EEC),[3] which is offered in partnership with the University of Washington College of Education, and delivers teacher professional development programs and workshops.

Problem #5: Current: In 2016, IslandWood partnered with Antioch University to launch the Urban Environmental Education Program. Why This Needs to be Revised: We are no longer involved in this program and that link is dead. And the date is wrong -- should say 2014. Also, we partnered with Antioch University Seattle NOT Antioch University. While Antioch University is the parent brand, it is not the same organization. Proposed revision: Move this to the history section with the following changes: “In 2014, IslandWood partnered with Antioch University Seattle (AUS) to launch the Urban Environmental Education Program. In 2019, IslandWood and AUS ended their partnership and AUS took over the program.”

Problem #6: Current: IslandWood also offers the campus to other organizations to host conferences, meetings, retreats or celebrations, including weddings. Conferences and weddings at IslandWood help to sustain the mission by providing funds for the School Overnight Program.[citation needed] Why This Needs to be Revised: For clarity and to mention other programs we offer. For example, our free and low cost public events and programs attract around 7,000 people every year yet there’s no mention of that in this description. Funds from our events business help cover both scholarships and expenses to run all of our education programs not just the School Overnight Program. Proposed revision: IslandWood also offers summer camps, public events and programs, and hosts meetings, retreats, celebrations, and weddings on its campus. Revenue from its events business helps sustain the mission by providing funds for student scholarships and educational programming.[citation needed] (If you need a citation, our annual report may work where it shows how events contribute to our operating costs: [8])

References

  1. ^ https://islandwood.org/about-us/
  2. ^ https://islandwood.org/community-waters-science-unit/
  3. ^ https://islandwood.org/teacher-professional-development/
  4. ^ https://islandwood.org/about-us/our-journey/
  5. ^ https://islandwood.org/day-programs-in-seattle-and-at-brightwater/
  6. ^ https://islandwood.org/school-overnight-program/
  7. ^ https://islandwood.org/graduate-program/
  8. ^ https://islandwood.org/about-us/about-annual-reports/

Request[edit]

I have removed your edit requests temporarily; while blocked, the only legitimate use of this page is to request to be unblocked. You will need to successfully request unblock before proposing any edits. 331dot (talk) 19:51, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@331dot: OK...I'm confused and need some guidance. I really just want to correct the incorrect information on our organization's Wikipedia page. I have no interest in being a Wikipedia contributor or editor. In the request edit I sent on June 22, I provided legitimate 3rd party references (articles in media outlets or government websites) for every change and correction request. I don't have a case to be unblocked, so how do I go about requesting that someone review the changes I'm requesting now that I've correctly referenced independent sources. Thank you for your guidance on the best way to proceed. IWCommunications (talk) 20:13, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have some thoughts about this, but as the blocking admin I will also ask Dlohcierekim to weigh in before I comment. 331dot (talk) 20:56, 30 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I notice all the sourcing in the above text wall is from the subject's web site. See below. UNless there is some reason not to, I cannot see unblocking without adherence to WP:PAID and WP:COI. I do not believe the subject is notable. Correct me if I'm wrong, @331dot:, but wouldn't WP:CORP apply? I know, this is a legacy page from 2007, when we were more interested in expansion than notability. As it sits, I think this is WP:ARTSPAM. Some would say it meets WP:CSD#G11. Others would disagree.
The proposed changes are not sourced from reliable, independent sources, with verifiability and all that. This begins to look like the page and the current user are here to build the subject's web presence. We all know WIkipedia has the reach to do that.
Also, I see the rename request, I'll work on that, I guess. God, I see a lot of "we"'s. This account is being edited by a team, not a single user whose goal is building the encyclopedia. Generally, I require a topic ban on the COI article beyond suggested edits. Renaming is easy, if there are no concerns I am unaware of. Unblocking? Horse of a different color.
Well, 331dot, do you feel like I do? Bearing in mind that you can proceed as you think best if you think my reasoning is faulty. Awaiting your thoughts.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 00:43, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  Dlohcierekim (talk) 00:43, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You said what I was thinking, Dlohcierekim. They did make another suggested edit that I temporarily redacted, but that sourcing seemed to be press releases or routine announcements.
IWCommunications, if you want to be able to suggest edits, you need to want to be a general contributor and successfully request to be unblocked, as Dlohcierekim states and per the conditions they give. If you are not interested in being a general Wikipedia contributor, there isn't any more to be done here. You are free to make another unblock request that will be reviewed by another administrator if you wish, but it's not likely you will get a better offer. You are free to provide up-to-date information on a website owned by your organization. 331dot (talk) 07:08, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wikiepdia is the world's largest free-content encyclopedia. There are tons of work to do. The community portal has links to pages that need attention. One could spend a lifetime there.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 11:16, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

renaming to Kristinej[edit]

was less easy than I had hoped. We already have one. Please choose again.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 00:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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