User talk:Instaluke

February 2022

Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to The Island (2005 film), it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 18:30, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

There are two other references to product placement in the article. There are no supporting reliable sources for them. I've watched the film and saw the product placement. What other evidence do I need to supply? I've made factual claims based on watching a film that anyone can verify simply by watching it. Instaluke (talk) 21:39, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

I saw one more unsourced one and have deleted it; thank you for pointing that out. You need sources to demonstrate that the instances of product placement received some degree of attention. Otherwise, every film article (among others) could have vast sections calling out every instance where a product appears. I hope you can see that that's not really a desirable outcome. :) Cheers! DonIago (talk) 01:48, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

I've found an article on Product placement that has a section called Extreme examples. They Island features in this section. I would agree that the amount of product placement in this film is excessive. You'd expect most films to have some as a matter of course. People usually drive a certain make and model of car. And wear clothes with branding on them. But The Island goes to great lengths to show the logos prominently on multiple occasions. There's a reference to Michael Bay doing this for the sake of realism. This, along with the other references in this article, are linked to pages which no longer work. I've looked at several of the other examples of films in this section, and many of the references links don't take you to a valid Web page. I agree with you that not every film deserves to have a section on product placement as it's usually low level and not too noticeable. But in instances such as The Island it's so egregious that it's worth making note of. Instaluke (talk) 10:14, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

I have no objection to you fleshing out the product placement section with sourced examples such as the article you mentioned. I'd be hopeful that while the links may be dead the underlying sources have been archived, but I don't have the time (or really the inclination) to research currently. Anyway, I think it's entirely possible that this film utilizes product placement to an unusual degree, and I'd welcome more information about that as long as it is backed up by sources. Happy editing! DonIago (talk) 16:28, 13 February 2022 (UTC)