User talk:Jesswalther

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Project Feedback[edit]

Hi Jess - I got a chance to look at your topic. I love the idea of looking at youth and marketing. I would also add the idea of youth and consumption - the expanding middle class in many countries around the world are a growing part of consumer culture. One book to consider is [1].

Look for information about how marketers are beginning to target youth in non-U.S. markets.

How will you incorporate sociological or anthropological research that focuses on one of the four areas of youth studies? I would consider thinking about the meanings youth attach to consumption to help guide you.Prof.Vandegrift (talk) 04:41, 7 February 2013 (UTC)


Hey Jess! Thanks for the message - I can't believe it's been almost two years since we lived together! (or that we are graduating...) court Court caitlin (talk) 04:39, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


Hi Jess. Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm an online ambassador for your Global Youth Studies course at Drake. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, chat with us on IRC, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question.

Wikipedia has an article for youth marketing which might give you some ideas for which direction to take your topic. Gobōnobō + c 19:41, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Reality TV angle[edit]

Jess - this is a great angle to pursue. I am familiar with the case of "Super Voice Girl" in China. Here are some citations I have:

Yunjuan Luo & Xiaoming Hao (2007). Media Portrayal of Women and Social Change
A Case Study of Women of China. Feminist Media Studies, 7(3), 281-298.
Hui Xiao (2006). Narrating a Happy China through a Crying Game
A Case Study of Post-Mao Reality Shows. Chinese Media Research, 2(3), 59-67.

A comparison of the global versions of "Next Top Model" have been studied, too. I encourage you, as you note in your user page, to work hard early to find out what sources might be available. Good luck - let me know how I can help.P.S. I am still looking from a post from you on my talk page... Thanks! Prof.Vandegrift (talk) 20:42, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Classmate Feedback[edit]

Hi Jess. I think your topic sounds very interesting. It will be fascinating to study the differences in interaction with reality television between youth in different nations. Is reality TV even a big sensation outside of the Global North? It might be interesting to look at whether they watch American shows or produce their own. Additionally, it would be interesting to see how particular reality TV brands are different throughout the world. It seems like American Idol has many variations throughout the world, so that might be an interesting show to study. - Laura

Plumbla (talk) 22:10, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


Love the topic Idea. I'm a TV Production major so that's probably why. I think reality TV would be a great focus for your topic, and you would be able to either do comparisons in style/content of these reality shows or focus in on specific countries. It's also interesting to point out the countries that do not make most of their own media, but instead have to get it from outside countries. (For example Laos gets most of their media from Thailand.)AshleyMichelleThompson (talk) 17:49, 22 February 2013 (UTC) Reposted here by Prof. VProf.Vandegrift (talk) 21:39, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Avoid original research[edit]

Hi, Jesswalther. You have a viable topic, as we have discussed. However, Wikipedia has strict rules banningno original research. In this way, the audience and assignment are different than a typical academic paper. Please read some of your classmate's proposals to clarify what needs to be done for the assignment. Keep working - you will get there. We will work in class on 3/13, too.Prof.Vandegrift (talk) 05:44, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Super Girl[edit]

Hi Jess. I see that you are honing in on Super Girl (contest) as a topic. Professor Vandegrift is correct about the policy on original research. Rather than watching full episodes of the show, you may want to see if you can find Super, Girls!, which is a documentary about the show. This book also has a decent summary of the show, starting midway down the page at 'More Votes Than the President'. Gobōnobō + c 21:04, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Your post on my talk page - please revise[edit]

Dear Jesswalther, Good job getting this turned in to me. Please do two revisions to your post on my talk page: Sign the page (the four ~) and post a link to your sandbox in your post so people seeking to give you feedback can navigate there quickly.Prof.Vandegrift (talk) 16:42, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Feedback on 3.27 sources[edit]

Hi, Jesswalther! You chose a solid list of sources.

As you make an outline of your planned revisions to the Super Girl page, think about how to incorporate facts in each article. Will you make new sections or revise what's already there? Are there statistics you'd like to find?
Please claim your article on our Education Program:Drake University/Global Youth Studies (Spring 2013) course page and move your references and proposal to your user page and not your sandbox.

Keep going - you have some good sources! Prof.Vandegrift (talk) 04:48, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Additional feedback 4.2[edit]

Hi Jesswalther! I think you have strong support, and the idea to edit the reality television with the youth audiences edition could be done. Can you think through how this is global? Adding a non-U.S. perspective to it could inject important information. The contribution of editing Super, Girls! is less clear to me. This is a documentary about the show. Adding to it feels like a less notable contribution than to work in the other areas you suggest. Also, I hope you take a moment to consider user:Gobonobo's and my feedback in creating the outline for the work you want to do. Good luck - let's talk tomorrow night, too! Prof.Vandegrift (talk) 16:47, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

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Proposed reality television edits[edit]

Hi Jesswalther. I see that you are working in your sandbox on a youth audience section for the reality television article. Edits to that article may be tricky. As it is a highly trafficked article, any edits there are likely to come under more scrutiny than those to other articles. As the article is already very lengthy, there may also be some resistance to adding much more content, especially if it is deemed peripheral. I note that an editor has recently trimmed content from the article, making it more concise. Have you given thought to where in the article you might place your section? It seems to me that 'youth audience' isn't really a subgenre of the medium, but it might fit in the 'Analysis and criticism' section. Let me know if you need any help. Gobōnobō + c 12:56, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

Gobonobo--As I've been researching, I too am finding it difficult to isolate "youth audience" as its own genre. The article doesn't really offer a very global perspective as is. Most of the content comes from American or British programming, so I would argue that the information isn't necessarily peripheral if it's placed correctly in the article. I like the idea of reworking the content to fit under the 'Analysis and criticism' portion, though I'm not quite sure how I would title it. Perhaps 'Global youth engagement' or 'Youth participation'? What would you suggest? Jesswalther (talk) 16:12, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
Either one could work. Global youth engagement sounds good, though I also think that youth audience describes your subject matter well. Youth participation is also feasible, though it could be construed as referring to either the audience or the contestants. Gobōnobō + c 16:16, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for the feedback!Jesswalther (talk) 16:43, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

May 1, 2013 Article Peer Review[edit]

Hey Jess! I just wanted to start by saying this is a great start to your project for the end of the year! I cannot wait to see what you produce three weeks from now. Below are the summaries of each section for my review:

Writing Style: I found one error in the intro where you introduce the who article with non-encyclopedic writing that I believe needs to be corrected. Additionally, I think that you have an excellent, very clean writing style! This will make it so much better when working with the article because it is easy to understand. I noticed a few grammatical errors here and there, but overall really well done. Structure of Article: It is only a briefly structured article in my opinion right now. It lacks an organization around your central theme of the youth audience. how do your global examples directly apply to youth audience? Be explicit, it'll make your article so much easier to understand. Content: You have clearly worked hard on this project, and it shows! It has a great start to it, but I fear you created some redundant stubs in your global examples. Why are they relevant? They seem through in now, not relevant immediately. This can be done by adding a paragraph before the examples themselves explaining why they are present within the article other than because it is needed to be relevant to our class. But great content overall! WP Community Standards: I am really proud of the way you adhered to the standards! Just make sure to fix your introductions that resemble a paper now, not an encyclopedia!

Such a great start, can't wait to see what you produce! Jduden (talk) 06:52, 1 May 2013 (UTC)jduden

  1. ^ Liechty, Mark (2002). Suitably Modern: Making Middle-Class Culture in a New Consumer Society. Princeton. ISBN 978-0691095936.