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Haplogroup J1c3d (Y-DNA)

- - J1c3d Modal Haplotype. Ysearch EVH4G

User ID	Last Name	Origin	3 9 3	1 9	4 2 6	3 8 8	3 8 9 \| 1	3 9 2	3 8 9 \| 2	4 5 9 a	4 5 9 b	4 5 5	4 5 4	4 3 7	4 4 8	Y C A I I a	Y C A I I b	5 7 8	3 9 5 S 1 b	5 9 0	4 7 2	4 3 6	4 9 0	4 5 0	4 9 2	5 6 5
EVH4G	J1c3d Modal Haplotype 24 of 67 markers to predict J1c3d within a genetic distance of 3.	Unknown	12	14	11	16	13	11	30	8	9	11	11	14	20	22	22	8	16	8	8	12	12	8	12	11

References

Alicia M Cadenas1, Lev A Zhivotovsky2, Luca L Cavalli-Sforza3, Peter A Underhill3 and Rene J Herrera1, European Journal of Human Genetics (2008) 16, 374–386; doi:10.1038/sj.ejhg.5201934; published online 10 October 2007, Y-chromosome diversity characterizes the Gulf of Oman
Saudi Arabian Y-Chromosome diversity and its relationship with nearby regions-Khaled K Abu-Amero1 , Ali Hellani2 , Ana M González3 , Jose M Larruga3 , Vicente M Cabrera3 and Peter A Underhill4 Saudi Arabian Y-Chromosome diversity and its relationship with nearby regions
Smithsonian2 http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/volcano.cfm?vnum=1000-023
Bond1997"http://rivernet.ncsu.edu/courselocker/PaleoClimate/Bond%20et%20al.,%201997%20Millenial%20Scale%20Holocene%20Change.pdf | year = 1997 | title = A Pervasive Millennial-Scale Cycle in North Atlantic Holocene and Glacial Climates | journal = Science | volume = 278 | issue = 5341 | pages = 1257–66 | doi = 10.1126/science.278.5341.1257 }}
Crater Lake (Mount Mazama eruption) 6,845±50 years Comparison of Bosumtwi Impact Crater (Ghana) and Crater Lake Volcanic Caldera (Oregon, USA):Implications for Biotic Recovery after Catastrophic Events >http://www.volcano.si.edu/world/volcano.cfm?vnum=1000-023
Cultural responses to aridity in the Middle Holocene and increased social complexity, http://www.nickbrooks.org/publications/QI151Brooks_reform.pdf
Babylon est.by Hummarbi 5755 years, Ancient Eclipses and dating the fall of Babylon Ancient eclipses and dating the fall of Babylon, Banjevic, B., Publications of the Astronomical Observatory of Belgrade, Vol. 80, p. 255, http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/full/gif/2006POBeo..80..251B/0000255.000.html
Cooling Event 4,200 years, Claussen1999"Claussen, Mark; et al. (1999). "Simulation of an Abrupt Change in Saharan Vegetation in the Mid-Holocene". Geophysical Research Letters. 26 (14): 2037–40. Bibcode:1999GeoRL..26.2037C. doi:10.1029/1999GL900494.
Forerunners of the Hattusili-Ramesses treaty, Dietrich Sürenhagen, British Musuem and. Beckman, Hittite Diplomatic Texts, 93. 133.,http://www.britishmuseum.org/pdf/6e%20Forerunners.pdf
NEO-HITTITES IN THE “LAND OF PALISTIN”,Renewed Investigations at Tell Taʿyinat on the Plain of Antioch, NEAR EASTERN ARCHAEOLOGY 72:4 (2009), http://www.utoronto.ca/tap/publications/Harrison_NEA_2009_72_4.pdf

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My file

I actually don't want to make the file public right now (don't want it used just yet). I am not a PhD scientist (yet at least) or anything, I just made it for fun (sorta) originally. Do you mind if I email it to you instead?--Yalens (talk) 01:44, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I have uploaded it, it is available at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Edited_Distribution_Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.png. As you can see, I based it off the older wiki file and did not totally blot out the 10% and 20% marks of the earlier file. But I tried my best to represent what I saw in the releases (Battaglia '08, Balanovsky '11, many of Nasidze's, Yunusbaev '06 , Wells '01, Semino '05, Perichich, Abu-Amero, etc...). As you can see it is still a work in progress. --Yalens (talk) 01:49, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, after thinking it over, I have decided to delete it. I am only an amateur in genetics. I think I should only reproduce what sources say and that's it. I didn't cite my sources properly (I don't even remember some of them at this point), and I just don't think its appropriate for me to post maps that could end up being used here and there without me even knowing about it. So I'm going to delete it. Sorry about this. Hope you got a look at it before I deleted- if you didn't and you really want to see it, I can email it to you. Sorry again. --Yalens (talk) 02:07, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I got it. It needs work and I do not know your methodology. Tofanelli used online software from Hawaii an just tossed in some Lat/Long that is totally without individualization. He then put it in his paper and said he'd tell you how he does it if you email him. The supplemental data is on his My thought is you should have a list of birth places that go with the data rather than just tagging 184 men, of which 18 may be J1 in Kazakhstan. Then he lets the software spread it out so it looks more meaningful than it is. What the software does with a 1000 points of measurement for weather, he lets it do with 30-40 points from collection points of swabs whole populations. As you may have guessed, I am not impressed with his methodology. JohnLloydScharf (talk) 03:47, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bottom line-The Map is wrong and not Verifiable

BOTTOM LINE-the Map is wrong:

35x73.4%=26.005 or 26 J1-Khartoum Students
35x17.1%= 5.985 or 6 J1-Arabic
61x04.9%= 2.989 or 3 J1-Nilo-Saharan

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131x26.7%= 34.979 or 35 J1 total
"We study the major levels of Y-chromosome haplogroup variation in 15 Sudanese populations by typing major Y-haplogroups in 445 unrelated males representing the three linguistic families in Sudan...Haplogroup E (four different haplotypes) accounts for the majority (34.4%) of the chromosome and is widespread in the Sudan."

http://ychrom.invint.net/upload/iblock/94d/Hassan%202008%20Y-Chromosome%20Variation%20Among%20Sudanese.pdf

445x34.4%=153.08 E Haplogroup

Encyclopedic content must be verifiable. John Lloyd Scharf 10:19, 25 August 2011 (UTC)