User talk:JohnnyGT

Ford GT contributions

Welcome to Wikipedia! Your edits to the Ford GT have been removed because they do not meet the requirements to cite a reliable source independent of the topic itself. Each article must be written from a neutral point of view and not contain original research. (Please see: WP:INDEPENDENT). Your contribution also falls under the category of self promotion. Please do not revert the edits. Thank you! CZmarlin (talk) 16:02, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for providing the link to the newspaper notice. However, please review the standards and criteria for inclusion in an encyclopedia. For example, "news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia." This statement is part of the WP:NOTNEWS guidelines. Moreover, the news item in question does not meet Wikipedia:Notability requirements. "It takes more than just a short burst of news reports about a single event or topic to constitute sufficient evidence of notability – particularly for living individuals known for one event (WP:BLP1E)." Your contribution still falls under "self-promotion and indiscriminate publicity" (see WP:SPIP). Your edits constitute a temporary news event, and is not encyclopedic. I hope this further explains the reasons for the removal of your contribution. Thanks! CZmarlin (talk) 13:35, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I did not realize someone like you even existed on Wikipedia but since you were so nice to respond I'd like an explanation of some other such claims/self-promotions that are already on the page. Hidetoshi Mitsusada and Daisuke Ikeda aren't exactly household names. Am I missing your point and the problem is because I wrote it AND did it? Would this be a problem if someone else posted it about me? All of the mph statistics are inaccurate as well. I have verification there too. Below you promote not only past temporary news events, but apparently the future as well. Do you expect that the upcoming 24 Hours of Lemans to be more than a "short burst of news reports about a single event or topic"? I'd really like to understand this.

• A highly-modified GT was raced in 2006 and 2007 in Super GT's GT300 class in Japan, driven by Hidetoshi Mitsusada and Daisuke Ikeda. Designed by DHG Racing, the car was powered by a 3.5 L Ford Zetec-R unit produced by Cosworth in the mid-1990s for Formula One[16].
• Swiss team Matech Concepts had three Ford GT GT3s in the FIA GT3 European Championship[17]. The Ford GT Matech team won the title in 2008. They plan a modified version of the GT3 car for the VLN championship, before offering the car in a GT1 class form.
• Michigan based Robertson Racing runs a Doran built Ford GT-R in the American Le Mans Series GT2 class[18].
• Black Swan Racing ran a Falken Tires sponsored Ford GT-R in the GT2 class in the American Le Mans Series during the 2008 season.
• British team RPM Motorsport plans to compete in the British GT circuit[19].
• Two teams will run Ford GT's in the GT1 class at the 2010 24 Hours of Le Mans, Matech Competition with two entries and Marc VDS Racing with one entry.

• 0–60 mph (0–96 km/h): 3.3 seconds[8], 3.6 seconds[9], 3.7 seconds [10]
• 0–100 mph (0–160 km/h): 7.4 seconds [10]
• 0-150 mph (0–241 km/h): 16.9 seconds [11]
• Standing 1/4 mile (402 m): 11.2 seconds @ 131.2 mph (211.1 km/h)[10], 11.6 seconds @ 126.2 mph (203.1 km/h)[12], 11.78 seconds @ 124.31 mph (200.06 km/h)[13]
• Top speed: 205 mph (330 km/h) (electronically limited) [14]

—Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnyGT (talk) as of 17:40, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out some of the problems in the article. It is sometimes the case with contributors adding material that is not encyclopedic. Many automobile enthusiasts will insist on contributions to "showcase" their cars. One of the prime examples has been expanding the "performance" sections for their favorite models. The Ford GT article includes some statistics from published road test magazines to satisfy most of those readers. Although I have tried to organize the information, the article still needs more editing. In answer to your concern about the car's racing: its history can be condensed to include the most significant appearances and wins. There are too many events to list every time a particular car has been entered in a contest. There are numerous websites devoted to such information. It is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. Thanks for your ideas and for helping to improving the article! CZmarlin (talk) 23:35, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Wouldn't you consider the first production passenger car to break 250mph in the standing mile noteworthy? I'm really new to Wikipedia and am trying to school myself on what's acceptable and what's not, but content inclusion seems arbitrary and somewhat ambiguous. I read the links you posted, but still don't see any difference in what I want added and many other Wiki articles. I wasn't including a link. I have verification to my claim and in the racing circuit is quite a noteworthy event. Dare I say it, encyclopedic. I realize I'll lose an argument with you, so that is not my intention. I just want to understand why other claims are allowed to remain, while mine is removed.—Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnyGT (talk) as of 23:52, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you that many articles need improvement and should be written to meet established Wikipedia guidelines. The number of automotive superlatives seems to expand exponentially with everyone claiming something "special" about their models. I would recommend reviewing the suggestions on the WikiProject Automobiles page, as well as some of the "featured articles" for examples of good presentations.

In regards to the specific clam that you have made about your contribution to the Ford GT article, there are two additional concerns:

1. The claim that your car is "production" is not possible when according to the source: "Bohmer rebuilt the car so that now only the body remains of the original Ford GT." (see here). Therefore, this vehicle could hardly be considered a standard production passenger car if only its body is factory original.
2. The Palm Beach Post and the "Top Gun Run" are not recognized international sanctioning bodies. An established source for information on speed and endurance records often considered to be the Guinness World Records. It lists the SSC Aero TT as the fastest production car achieving 257 mph on a two-lane highway in Washington state in 2007 (see here and here).

Once again, an encyclopedia is not a venue for listing countless automotive related events. Thanks! CZmarlin (talk) 14:19, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

My car fits the Guiness definition of a production car, but if it's easier to grasp it's still a passenger car that is licensed, insured and driven daily on the streets of Palm Beach County. The most remarkable part is that I did 253mph in a standing mile. That's zero to 253 in one mile. Those other cars took several miles to reach 250mph. Anyways, I can see that I'm getting nowhere here. I'll try again when we are ready to do it again for Guiness.