User talk:K17nn02

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Notes on draft

Hi! I wanted to give you a few notes on the draft you're working on. First off, the manga sounds really interesting!

My notes are as follows:

If a series has not been officially/commercially released in English then the default is to title the article after the Romanized version of the name, in this case Musuko ga kawaikutesyouganai mazoku no hahaoya'. If the series has a popular nickname (as is the case with LN, manga, and anime series like Oreimo, DanMachi, and WataMote) and that nickname is more commonly used than the full title, you should include that in the article somewhere.

Be careful with series notability, as not all series are notable on the English Wikipedia. To show notability you'll need to provide coverage of the manga such as reviews or evidence of them placing on a notable popularity chart along the lines of the New York Times Bestseller lists. I know that there are some similar charts for manga, so you should be able to use that unless it's entirely primary (ie, a popularity ranking that only ranks the manga within a certain magazine and isn't reported on by secondary sources). One of the easiest ways to show notability is if the series has optioned for a movie or a TV series. OAVs can sometimes accomplish the same feat, however these are sometimes more difficult if the OAV is particularly obscure. Be careful with newly released series, as in many cases these don't have enough coverage to justify inclusion.

With sourcing, you don't have to list the Japanese Wikipedia as a citation - all you really need to do is credit them in the edit summary. Also, make sure that you're not using e-commerce sites as a citation - those pose a potential issue since the site's primary goal is to sell the reader something and they also cannot show notability. It's better to use a primary source or to just list the basic information about the volume, if you're using it to back up publication information.

Also be careful with descriptions of in-universe elements such as the special descriptions - including some information about this is OK as long as it's very brief and it isn't written about in an "in universe" style. Mostly you just need to be careful about the in-universe style, honestly.

I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any questions! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:46, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! I almost forgot - the reason I'm pointing this out is because the Japanese Wikipedia has different notability standards than Wikipedia does. Unfortunately the English site is fairly strict about what can or can't be included on here, much to the frustration of myself and others that like to edit on literary and publishing topics. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:48, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Another note - if you can't find coverage then you may want to look for series that have recently been optioned by English language companies and/or have had an adaptation done of the source material. Suicide Island (ja:自殺島) looks like it's had some good coverage ([1], [2], [3]) and I'm familiar with the series, as I've read some of the scanlations, if you need any last minute help. The film The Moment You Fall in Love looks like it would absolutely pass notability guidelines on Wikipedia, as it has a sequel and has been translated to English per Anime News Network. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:04, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:00, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]