User talk:Keiththeklam

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Harold Frank[edit]

This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Harold Frank, and it appears to include material copied directly from http://www.knathangallery.com/Harold-Frank.html.

It is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article. The article will be reviewed to determine if there are any copyright issues.

If substantial content is duplicated and it is not public domain or available under a compatible license, it will be deleted. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material. You may use such publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. See our copyright policy for further details. (If you own the copyright to the previously published content and wish to donate it, see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for the procedure.) CorenSearchBot (talk) 01:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see on the talk page you have asserted that you are the author of the text on the knathangallery.com website. For the text to be used on Wikipedia, you will have to:

Demonstrate that you are the author and hold the copyright to the text.
License the text under a free license, including Creative Commons and GFDL. Note that this will mean that the text is then free for anybody to use, including commercial reuse.

Even if you donate the text, the article may still be completely reworked for style reasons and to add independent reliable sources to the article. It will not remain in its current condition; frankly, you should expect it to be edited mercilessly.

If you still want to donate the text, let me know, and I can give you more information on how to put in a WP:OTRS request. —C.Fred (talk) 01:47, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at your message, a couple of things jump out:

If the only book written on Frank is by the owner of Frank's estate, then there is an underlying issue about the notability of Frank. The general gauge is that a subject should be covered in multiple reliable sources independent of the subject to be notable. As the owner of the estate, Stern is not independent. Accordingly, the article would have no independent sources and could be subject to deletion.

Regarding the text from the website, if you really want to use that as the basis of the article, you can follow the directions at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Bear in mind that once you do so, you "let the genie out of the bottle": licensing under Creative Commons and GFDL cannot be revoked, and the terms of the donation include unlimited derivative use, including commercial reuse.

Finally, there is this statement you made: "We are re-introducing him to the American public." The first problem with that is what I spoke of regarding notability. I run into this issue with up-and-coming bands a lot: the band can't have an article on Wikipedia until they're well-known enough to have been written about in a few magazines and newspapers. After that happens, there are enough reliable sources to show the band is notable. The second problem is one of neutral point of view and avoiding blatant advertising, either in fact or in appearance. While I feel that is is possible for an editor to write a neutral article about a subject they have a conflict of interest with, there are a lot of other Wikipedia editors who do not agree with me. Accordingly, it is vital that the article be just a factual account of Frank's life and work and not an invitation to purchase Frank's work. (However, a link to the official site about Frank is appropriate at the end of the article.)

Ultimately, it's up to you. You state "I'm not going to jump through hoops for you, though." The Wikipedia rules apply to everyone, regardless of the article. Any article can be challenged if it doesn't cite reliable sources. Any article can be taken down if it infringes on the copyrights of another. Any article can be edited, especially if it's perceived to have a bias because of who contributed the text. If following the Wikipedia guidelines feels like too many hoops, then that's your choice. If you're willing to try, I'm willing to help you along the way. —C.Fred (talk) 20:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]