User talk:LillianVee

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! Yworo (talk) 01:44, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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anything, on your user page then your name will appear in blue instead of red. This suggests to other editors that you are perhaps planning to stay a while and often gets you up to 37% more respect. Please don't let what is going on a Jacob Epstein drive you away. Discussion pages often do not show the best side of wikipedia. Try making a few edits in an article somewhere, back it up with a good source and see how that feels. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 23:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC) PS I don't think any of the editors there were administrators, or if they are then I saw no evidence of it. Any admin there was not pulling rank on anyone. Carptrash (talk) 23:24, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If they're not administrators, then shame on the real administrators for letting them run amok like that. I showed this stuff to a couple of friends including the one who's a WP editor and who got me in here: they all agreed that the level of discourse is grotesque. They also said Epstein should be described as British, and that Modernist and Freshacconci must be driven by a severe case of American jingoism, but I don't think that's correct: I think they just hate to be disagreed with. Their reactions to opposing viewpoints are comparable to a four-year-old's. I checked in today with the tiniest hope that Modernist might have apologized: silly girl! He just keeps going on and on, and no one from WP says anything back to him. My editor friend (who is NOT Ymoro by the way - no matter what the paranoids think, I have never met or communicated with him at all) said I should just ignore them, but I can't accept that either: I wasn't kidding when I said they ruined my day, and today isn't feeling any better. Foul-tempered control freaks are common enough in real life, but to find them dominating a so-called scholarly enterprise like this is just too dispiriting for me to remain involved. Thank you for checking in with me, but I have had enough. LillianVee (talk) 18:12, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]