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Speedy deletion nomination of Martin Treanor[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Martin Treanor, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, . Clicking that button will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the article's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. You may freely add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Nikthestoned 16:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removing Speedy at Martin Treanor[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Martin Treanor, a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, then you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: and appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. - SDPatrolBot (talk) 16:04, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself, as you did with Martin Treanor. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, then you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that looks like this: and appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. - SDPatrolBot (talk) 16:07, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problems with The Silver Mist[edit]

Hello. Concerning your contribution, The Silver Mist, please note that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites or printed material, without the permission of the author(s). This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.betterkarmapublishing.com/thesilvermist/. As a copyright violation, The Silver Mist appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. The Silver Mist has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message.

If you believe that the article or image is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License (CC-BY-SA) then you should do one of the following:

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However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. While contributions are appreciated, Wikipedia must require all contributors to understand and comply with its copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright concerns very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. Thank you. Nikthestoned 16:21, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, merely stating that you own the copyright to the content is not enough, and I would not be surprised if this article were deleted soon. Please review and follow the procedures detailed at WP:IOWN to verify that the text in question is properly licensed for use on Wikipedia. Larry V (talk | e-mail) 18:00, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I did not say I owned the copyright, I said that this is the synopsis from the back of the book, and that I am also the author's fiancé. I had heard that Wikipedia had become a joke, but I did not believe it until today! Forget it, his website is more than sufficient! I do not appreciate being talked to like a 5 year old. Littlemissbooknerd (talk) 18:11, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that it's not your copyright. I understand that you are a relation of the author of the book in question. Neither of these points changes the fact that the text you've contributed is not explicitly licensed for use on Wikipedia and is a legal liability as such. There is a very clear and simple path to take to clear up this particular problem, and it is described at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Larry V (talk | e-mail) 18:22, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

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I did not say I owned the copyright, I said that this is the synopsis from the back of the book, and that I am also the author's fiancé. I had heard that Wikipedia had become a joke, but I did not believe it until today! Forget it, his website is more than sufficient! I do not appreciate being talked to like a 5 year old. Littlemissbooknerd (talk) 18:10, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Martin has just informed me that you have written on the page that Better Karma Publishing is a print on demand publisher. This is completely false. They are an Independent Publisher, accredited and a member of the IBPA. The author has asked me that all information regarding 'The Silver Mist' and 'Martin Treanor' is removed from wikipedia immediately, as you are now slandering his name, and the validity of wikipedia is seriously under question, as it is only run by administrators with little or no academic experience and no journalistic knowledge. Please remove immediately. Cease all communication with me and if the information or entries remains after the end of the day, he will be taking further action. Littlemissbooknerd (talk) 08:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem: The Silver Mist[edit]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! We welcome and appreciate your contributions, such as The Silver Mist, but we regretfully cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from either web sites or printed material. This article appears to contain material copied from http://www.betterkarmapublishing.com/thesilvermist/, and therefore to constitute a violation of Wikipedia's copyright policies. The copyrighted text has been or will soon be deleted. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with our copyright policy. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators are liable to be blocked from editing.

If you believe that the article is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under license allowed by Wikipedia, then you should do one of the following:

It may also be necessary for the text be modified to have an encyclopedic tone and to follow Wikipedia article layout. For more information on Wikipedia's policies, see Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

If you would like to begin working on a new version of the article you may do so at this temporary page. Leave a note at Talk:The Silver Mist saying you have done so and an administrator will move the new article into place once the issue is resolved. Thank you, and please feel welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia. Happy editing! Larry V (talk | e-mail) 18:16, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Martin wants the synopsis used and the book has been referenced as the source (from the back cover). If this is not acceptable, then forget it, the synopsis is as it is and will not be re-written. I will not have dealings with such unprofessional companies. Littlemissbooknerd (talk) 18:20, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If he gives permission to use the text, please follow the procedure above. It can be as simple as editing the original source webpage or sending an email. Larry V (talk | e-mail) 18:28, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of The Silver Mist[edit]

Please do not make statements attacking people or groups of people. Wikipedia has a strict policy against personal attacks. Attack pages and images are not tolerated by Wikipedia and are speedily deleted. Users who continue to create or repost such pages and images in violation of our biographies of living persons policy will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thank you.

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June 2011[edit]

Your recent edits to The Silver Mist could give Wikipedia contributors the impression that you may consider legal or other "off-wiki" action against them, or against Wikipedia itself. Please note that making such threats on Wikipedia is strictly prohibited under Wikipedia's policies on legal threats and civility. Users who make such threats may be blocked. If you have a dispute with the content of any page on Wikipedia, please follow the proper channels for dispute resolution. Please be sure to comment on content not contributors, and where possible make specific suggestions for changes supported by reliable independent sources and focusing especially on verifiable errors of fact. Thank you. Island Monkey talk the talk 09:07, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Martin has just informed me that you have written on the page that Better Karma Publishing is a print on demand publisher. This is completely false. They are an Independent Publisher, accredited and a member of the IBPA. The author has asked me that all information regarding 'The Silver Mist' and 'Martin Treanor' is removed from wikipedia immediately, as you are now slandering his name, and the validity of wikipedia is seriously under question, as it is only run by administrators with little or no academic experience and no journalistic knowledge. Please remove immediately. Cease all communication with me and if the information or entries remains after the end of the day, he will be taking further action.

Please remove the reference on the 'Silver Mist' page which says it has been deleted due to the publisher being poD - this is false, inaccurate information, and is extremely irresponsible. And yes, legal action will be taken if every reference to Martin Treanor and The Silver Mist and references to the publisher being print on demand, are not removed. I am sure the publisher will not be happy when this is reported to them. Littlemissbooknerd (talk) 09:10, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making legal threats or taking legal action. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. nancy 09:12, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are not allowed to edit Wikipedia while the threats stand or the legal action is unresolved.

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Littlemissbooknerd (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

All I requested was that references and pages relating to Martin Treanor, Silver Mist and the reference where it says that the Silver Mist page has been deleted because the publisher is a poD house, be removed. this information is incorrect, and I was told I could not publish incorrect information, so why are you allowed to?Littlemissbooknerd (talk) 09:17, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Legal threat has not been withdrawn; no grounds for unblock provided. --jpgordon::==( o ) 18:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

(Non-administrator comment) You obviously do not understand why you have been blocked, so you request will probably be declined. Island Monkey talk the talk 09:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


It may be useful if I clarified that you were blocked specifically for the statement above "And yes, legal action will be taken if..." which you posted in response to a first warning about making legal threats. For any unblock request to be successful you will need to retract that statement of intent. Kind regards, nancy 09:22, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, technically, the other option is to carry through with the legal threat, but you'd be blocked throughout the duration of any such action to prevent any exacerbation of the issue at hand. See WP:NLT; this is a very firm rule on Wikipedia. elektrikSHOOS 09:29, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


A few clarifications, which I hope may be helpful to you.
  1. Three times you have stated that "further action" would be taken, and once you specified legal action. Wikipedia has a policy that, to avoid any legal problems due to conflicts of interest, anyone who is in legal dispute with Wikpedia or the Wikimedia foundation cannot also act as an editor on Wikipedia. Consequently, as long as the legal action you mention is either pending or in progress you will not be able to edit Wikipedia. You can be unblocked if and when you make it explicit that you are no longer contemplating or pursuing any such action.
  2. If you think that material in a wikipedia article is inaccurate, then explain why in a civil and friendly manner, and if possible offer evidence to support your view. This is much more likely to produce the result you want than blustering about how evil Wikipedia is and offering threats. Remember that we are all volunteers. Most of us do our best to make Wikipedia articles accurate, but we do sometimes make mistakes.
  3. I am not a lawyer, and have no professional knowledge of Florida law on libel and slander. However, I doubt that stating that a publisher works on a "print on demand" basis, even if mistaken, could possibly be construed as slanderous. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:25, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unaware of the "print on demand" assertion being made anywhere except in the deletion log, which hardly counts as "publishing incorrect information". Larry V (talk | e-mail) 18:08, 10 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Martin Treanor[edit]

The article Martin Treanor has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Cannot find coverage in independent sources that would meet WP:BIO

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. January (talk) 08:34, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Better Karma Publishing[edit]

I have now had email correspondence with Zorina Alliata, the CEO and President of Better Karma Publishing. She tells me that they do provide a print on demand service, as well as printing regular inventory for their warehouse. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:47, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Martin Treanor for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Martin Treanor is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Martin Treanor until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. January (talk) 15:05, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Littlemissbooknerd. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Martin Treanor, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

  1. editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
  2. participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors; and
  3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:51, 14 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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