User talk:Livelikemusic/Talk Page Archive 14

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Regarding your revert here, what parameters were violated? No source was given for the genre, but I'm not sure if "infobox violation" is the best term to describe it. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:00, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

@SNUGGUMS: Well, that is a violation of {{Infobox single}}, as it calls for no original research, and the inclusion of a genre without citation(s) is considered OR, and in violation of the template. Not to mention linking to Lovato's page is in violation of the over-link policy. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 18:06, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Just figured I'd ask. Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

General Hospital

Hi. I thought we were doing at the end of each week changing how many episodes that have aired. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 21:06, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

@Kiraroshi1976: We were, but it's best to check here to find out why the changes that were made happened, as it did not just happen at General Hospital, it happened as all current airing soap operas. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 21:14, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

I had no idea. I do apologize. I guess I was never alerted to the new policy. Sorry for the inconvenience. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 21:28, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

@Kiraroshi1976: It wasn't technically a new policy, {{Infobox television}} is not trumped by the verification policy and therefore, we must go with policy over template. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 21:30, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Nothing to apologize for; if anything, there should be a better way to communicate such things. It's after 5:00 on Friday in my world, Cheers to you both! Scr★pIron^IV 21:32, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Please just be mindful of my talk page's rules and requests to not interrupt one conversation for your own; it's my borderline-OCD that kicks in. I'll leave it, but please, be mindful next time. Thank you! livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 21:34, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

I responded, as I was pinged. Would that not include me in the conversation? Or am I missing something here? Scr★pIron^IV 14:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

General Hospital cast members changes

Bigpoliticsfan changed the list with out providing sources. I don't want to revert his/her changes and start an edit war. Can you look into it? Thank you. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 16:30, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting the page. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 00:46, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Kiraroshi1976: I fixed it;' btw, you don't have to ping me on my own talk page. I get the alerts from Wikipedia automatically. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 00:48, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I should have known that. I just didn't want to start an edit war with Bigpoliticsfan. I didn't feel the changes were correct, although I wanted to refrain from doing that. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 00:53, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

@Kiraroshi1976: You wouldn't have engaged in an edit-war simply by reverting their [wrong] edits. That is the issue with General Hospital; it has a revolving door of characters and cast members, and unless an exit is sourced, etc. it cannot be made. And with the continuous surprise appearances, it's hard to say who is on the cast and who is not. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 00:56, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

General Hospital Awards and Nominations section

Hi there. On the General Hospital page there is an awards and nomination section. I'd like to clean that up and make its own page. I have a sandbox of working on it here. Can you tell me what you think? Should I just stop doing it? - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 21:36, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

@Kiraroshi1976: Sorry for the delayed response! I think it looks nice, very good job. If you feel the awards and nominations section warrants its own section, and that the new page could be properly cited and meets general notability guidelines, then I say do it. And JSYK, yes, it does meet the GNG. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 00:18, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! I do think the section could be described in words with refs and a main article almost like the history section. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 01:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Little Mix

Just a heads up, as you've been reverting (correctly, in my view) various changes by user Deneoak to Little Mix pages... one of his most baffling changes is to the infobox of Little Me (song) – am I missing something, because I can't see anything wrong with the previous version of the infobox? Richard3120 (talk) 02:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

@Richard3120: I think it's them trying to give each individual member of the group writing credit, however, they did write the song together as a collective group, and in all technicality, should be credited as a group. I don't see the need to show each individual singer, especially since they do not have their own pages on Wikipedia. Their changes have been disruptive, at best, though are in slight good faith, despite their off-nature. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 02:44, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I don't doubt that nearly all the changes by the group's fans are made in good faith, they just get quite annoying, especially when you have to explain for the nth time that a picture on Twitter of one of the band's producers holding a platinum disc is not evidence that the Salute album has been certified platinum. Just on a technicality, I believe that the previous edit showing that the length of the single was 3:31 as opposed to the 3:55 album version is correct, although I'd have to check that. Richard3120 (talk) 02:54, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Cody Walker (actor)

Hi there, could you please tell me why you removed the infobox picture from Cody Walker (actor)? -- Chamith (talk) 08:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Never mind, I didn't notice that it was nominated for deletion under copyright grounds. It's clearly a WP:COPYVIO. Cheers!--Chamith (talk) 08:36, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

To: Livelikemusic

Hello @livelikemusic what I edited was an accident, and I'm new to this, do u do this as a profession, editing?? India144 (talk) 03:48, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

That ANI message

Sorry, I just realised I probably should have notified you since I mentioned you on that report. Since the message wasn't about you, I just didn't think to.Cebr1979 (talk) 00:54, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

@Cebr1979: It's fine; because you linked to my username, I was automatically made aware of the discussion! Thank you, though! livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 00:55, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

No prob, have a good one!Cebr1979 (talk) 00:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Michael Easton

As far as I know Daytime Confidential is not a good source. I could be wrong. Wouldn't Soaps In Depth have been told? Just curious is all. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 18:39, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

@Kiraroshi1976: Daytime Confidential is as much of a reliable source as On-Air, On-Soaps and We Love Soaps. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 18:47, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks. I was just curious. I wish he wouldn't leave. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 18:52, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

@Kiraroshi1976: Again, you do not need to ping me on my own talkpage; I just the notifications just fine. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 18:54, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

While I understand that a copy of an image on Commons is preferable, the file you created does not accurately depict the logo as it has been released to the public (with the blue background). If you can fix the file you created to depict the blue background we can use it, otherwise the rationale in using the other image is fine, and in this case preferred. Thanks - Garchy (talk) 14:16, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@Garchy: Where does it state that the blue background is preferred and is the edit to be used? .PNG rendered logos seem to be the preferred type of image uploaded, as showcased throughout several other articles for not only television series, but for other late-night talk shows, as well as television networks. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 14:18, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

My issue isn't with the .PNG rendering, but rather that the image was changed without general consensus WP:CON and the fact that it is missing a crucial element that every other logo I have seen for the show has (the blue background, there are no variants being released by CBS). I understand you're just trying to help the article, but since it is your created image do you think you may have a WP:COI in this? If an image change is contested it should be discussed on the talk page, so I think that's a natural next step to take it to, to see what others think. In the meantime I would of course like to avoid a revert war, but I do think the blue logo best represents the show, and until we get a discussion going it may be best to revert the image back to how it has been prior to today. Thanks, Garchy (talk) 14:27, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@Garchy: I actually do not see it as a conflict of interest, honestly. Throughout my time here at Wikipedia, it seems as if the logo is uploaded onto Wikipedia, it is preferred to be without a background and rendered into PNG (or 2000px SVG format), as to provide a clear view of the image. From what I've noticed around Wikipedia, most television logos are generally uploaded without a background and are rendered in a seamless PNG format for clean viewing; I am merely following that pattern of uploading, as it is what is seemed to be preferred on Wikipedia. I suggest leaving it to see how what others do believe, and since you were reverted, the image must stay until a discussion is had, which I truly do not believe is needed over something as silly as whether a logo should include a background or not; there are other issues editors on Wikipedia should be paying attention to. Changing back is you attempting to potentially own the page to your own preferred setting. Logos are preferred in PNG, and that logo is JPG. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 14:36, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Looking through the TV MOS I see nothing about PNG versus JPG, nor have I seen examples similar to what you are quoting (with the background removed). I have seen white backgrounds removed to transparent, but not something that is indicative of the logo/brand. I'm certainly not exhibiting signs of WP:OWN, I was surprised you went ahead and reverted my revert of your original logo. I'm looking for consensus, and since the show hasn't even started yet (and there aren't numerous variants floating around) I think it's jumping the gun a little bit to have a version that does not match those released by CBS (especially since the original version fits WP:LOGOS). Thank you for the thoughts, it's nice to have a rational discussion on this. Garchy (talk) 14:47, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

@Garchy: My reverting had little to do with it being the image I upload, it was based on what I have seen throughout Wikipedia for television pages for both networks and series. Either way, I have opened the discussion to the WikiProject:Television and to the Logo policy talk page to gain more discussion from those who may have a more neutral viewpoint of this issue. And one show that does utilize the background-less logo is fellow CBS late-night show, The Late Late Show with James Corden. I will be waiting to see how the discussion turns out, and hope it continues to be stimulating conversation. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 14:54, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Compliment

I did just want to say that your point about editors not knowing the difference between "divorced" and "separated" — or even between "filing for divorce" and "divorce finalized" — is something that drives me crazy, too. I'm happy to see a fellow editor who shares and acts on these concerns. My compliments to you.

I guess you meant using the red "start a new message" bar at top. Done. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:52, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

@Tenebrae: Yes, I did. It's just to keep things cohesive on my talk page — I appreciate the compliment. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 21:54, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

The other thing that gets me is seeing uncited birth dates, or uncited claims about schools and degrees. Drives me nuts. How hard is it to find an RS for well-known figure's birth date? It's not 100 percent doable, but 98 percent probably. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:00, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

@Tenebrae: Even if said-source is a first-party source — though third-party would be more highly reliable. It takes five minutes of research to find a reliable source for a DOB, and not searching for said-citation is lazy, at best. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 22:03, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Just want to say again how good it is to work with a careful and thoughtful editor who shows civility. That's not always the case on Wikipedia, and I want you to know how much I appreciate your collegiality. With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 23:15, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

@Tenebrae: And the same to you, as well. It's nice having a civil conversation where one party did not erupt into "OMG but no! That's not how it's supposed to go, like NO! I SAID SO!" Nice to know civility still exists in this world! livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 00:22, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

That's very kind of you, Livelikemusic. I do wish, speaking as a professional journalist and editor who uses Wikipedia as a source of reference footnotes, and who has written biographies professionally, that I could persuade you to see how other encyclopedias and reference works handle family. I think seeing how ethical, professional sources do it can only help provide perspective. Though I could not wish for a more reasonable, civil and collegial fellow editor! --Tenebrae (talk) 00:54, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Reliable source

Hey Livelikemusic, how are you? I was wondering, do you think that this reference: https://jacquidzekoheaven.wordpress.com/2015/08/23/jacqueline-macinnes-wood-talks-to-the-italian-magazine-dipiu-tv-i-look-like-steffy/ is a reliable source that JMW is dating Daren Kagasoff I am not sure cuz it is obviously a fan website, but the article seems legit.  — JJakathestrength (talk, contribs) 14:40, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

@JJakathestrength: Not reliable, definitely. Especially since it was a translated text. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 17:32, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

General Hospital cast members

I went through all the dashes and dating and I think it's all right now but, I'm a little dizzy so maybe look it over when you have a minute if you don't mind lol - thanks in advance!Cebr1979 (talk) 10:13, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Reporting user

Hey, User:Jumpuy has continued to vandalise/add incorrect information to Australia's Got Talent and The Voice Kids (Australian TV series) after your final warning. Are you going to report the user? Lightsout (talk) 22:29, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

@Lightsout: We should be reporting them once again; it's clear their intentions are not to edit for the greater good for the website and that they're not here to edit constructively. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 00:03, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

E-mail

Hi! I'm no longer using the e-mail address you have (even though I did just e-mail you from it - lol). When/if you reply (and for any and all future e-mails, please use the same name but, instead of @yahoo.ca, use @hotmail.ca (not hotmail.com: a lot of people are getting that wrong). Bye for now!Cebr1979 (talk) 04:48, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

User talk:Dancedom

Just noticed you giving this user a final warning, when you'd already given them a final warning a month ago. If they've ignored that previous warning and are continuing to make disruptive edits, you can go ahead and report them to WP:AIV at that point. --McGeddon (talk) 14:44, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

General Hospital cast members

Hi there. I'd like to know why the person who moved info and created a new page without consent of the rest of the group who maintains the page. Should that person be doing that? - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 21:43, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

@Kiraroshi1976: They are more than welcome to do it, as other soap cast members pages have done the same, and it has honestly been something I've been wanting to do for a while. If you feel strongly about it not being done, either bring it up to the editor, or to one of the pages' talk page. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 21:44, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Soap Opera Credits

Hi There. I was told a while back that television credits are not a reliable source. When I posted that on the General Hospital cast members talk page, someone else said that they are. I'd like to know which is it? Reliable or not reliable. Thank you - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 00:45, 8 September 2015 (UTC)