User talk:MariaJaydHicky2

Let's talk

You are probably sick of wasting hundreds of hours making edits that are all reverted. I have a plan you may wish to hear about. Can we talk? Are you there? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:46, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak:, seeing as I gave up using this website back in 2012 and last time I said something, you got the right hump with me and blocked me from even editing my own talk page; I only created this account 'cause I got so fucking fed up everytime I checked my phone that I had bare e-mails from all these stupid users, be it Tbhotch, Binksternet, Diannaa, Sro23 and that new thing SummerPhDv2.0 tagging my account and now your e-mail; you know what really pisses me off? I get accused of shit I haven't done and when I'm trying to live my life I keep getting this shit rubbed back in my face; and I checked today my old account; sure I had Mariahicky, MariaJaydHicky, MariaJaydHickment as my accounts; like I tried telling Kww years ago, my computer was shit; it would only save the password and wouldn't let me log back in to change it so of course I was going to make a new account (MariaJaydHicky) he even knew the problems I went though with it all so why if you know all about it act like it was all new to you? Does he suffer from Alzheimer's? And like I told you Anna, I stopped using this website and had better things to do; so I'll meet you half way and see what you want me to do and I'll communicate via this account (MariaJaydHicky as MariaJaydHicky2) for the time being and what is your plan then? MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 09:33, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much for communicating here. I've a busy weekend coming up and will hardly have a second to think of how to respond. Please let me get back to you in a couple of days. So sorry. Also, I'm so sorry you are upset. All this can't be good for anyone, especially you. I'll try to help sort things out. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:25, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak:, I hope I have spelt that right been using my phone, so basically; someone has sabotaged my chances to talk on my old account, so all our convos are going to have to be on here, I just want to go verify it that the only accounts I have/had were Mariahicky (the old computer one that I could never change the password for, thanks to a shit computer), MariaJaydHicky (the one that I was able to use but sometimes I would enter my password for it, some days it'll accept it some days it wouldn't) and the MariaJaydHckment (never used it 'cause I saw it was missing a letter and it looked like I can't spell my own name - actually made at most less than 10 edits, thought I hadn't used it until after I found out today; could've sworn blind that as soon as I saw the name without the I 'cause why would I want to use something that's not the right spelling of my name?) and the MariaJaydHickment one (all four of them Kww was told about in a personal e-mail which I've still got copies of; he even said "OK thanks for telling me, if they get blocked I will make sure to unblock them and let other admin know your genuine reasons why", I want to know why he didn't step in and say; actually I've spoken to her and I know what's gone on, leave it with me) and now MariaJaydHicky2 (if your plan resolves in the MariaJaydHicky one being unblocked, obviously I'll have this one as a alternative one as a talk one but would only use it as a last resort, IE I lose my phone and someone changes the password to the MariaJaydHicky account) also what I can not understand is this, for the past four and a bit years I moved into my (now ex) boyfriend's house in Bristol (about four hours away from my old house) when I told Kww that I was leaving surely how could I have been accused of doing all these accounts (he knew what was said, why didn't he think, hang on if she's gone, she's gone would she ever come back? Not fucking likely then - thank you very much, now maybe); have of them are just stupid in the numbers; if that CheckUser thing was shit hot and knew what it was doing and was never wrong, how could it have picked them all up as me? I wasn't even in the London area or those accounts? It even tagged those "me accounts" with these random strangers, surely something wasn't right and like I said early what is your plan and thank you for actually trying to do something nice, I actually appreciate it MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 20:37, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: on another note can you inform SummerPhDv2.0 to stop undoing my talk page edits, this is between me and you (in the nicest way of putting it) MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 22:24, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi again. I'm so sorry. I really will need 24 hrs more before getting into this. Until then, everyone can do as they see fit. I just can't get into it until then. Thanks for your understanding. Don't worry. We'll get all this straightened out. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:43, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Maria. I had a bit of time, so got cracking at a response. :)

Thanks for filling me in on the background. I am sorry I had to revoke talk page access back then. It is part of my duty here when someone makes racist remarks like that. Anyhow, that is all in the past.

Okay, so yes, let's chat. Ummm, this is mostly about what you want and what is possible and how you feel about editing and why you edit and how you feel about Wikipedia. What would you like to happen is the big question.

Permit me to tell you what they would insist on: Regardless of how the first block happened, it is what happened after that, the socking etc I mean, that is why they would probably not want a simple unblock and carry on thing. We would have to figure out something better.

Why I am writing to you is for two reasons: I really like Wikipedia. And I think you are probably a very, very nice person. Life is short and valuable and when I see this: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/MariaJaydHicky/Archive, I can only think one thing. That person has just thrown away thousands of hours of life. Like raking leaves into a pile and the wind blows it everywhere and then you start raking again. Nobody deserves that.

You must be thinking by now, that regardless of how this started and who is to blame, the facts are the facts. This has taken thousands of your hours all for nothing. That is a tragedy.

Do you want to continue this for another five years? Do you want something to change? What do you want the future to look like? My very best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:45, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: Honestly, I dunno anything about the socking all I remember is that, one day I went into sign in one day as MariaJaydHicky and it wouldn't let me sign in, I tried loads of times then I created the MariaJaydHckment one, only to realise when I logged in after it I couldn't sign in, I restarted my computer went to log in as MariaJaydHickment, only to realise I was missing a letter and had to make another one (maybe it was bad but at the time I saw it differently), I would like to go back on here as I know I've been fucked over; with people trying to frame me, with all these socks and the CheckUser results; if there is anyway I can go back on here I promise I will only have one account (and one in the tank as a reserve if in case I lose access to my original one but I will have it noted that it is an alternative account) any ideas if that is possible? MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 07:24, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: maybe I'm in the wrong for saying this but, why was Kww even an admin; given my background (that he knew of, but decided to paint me as the villian) I even read through the problems he caused as an admin; honestly he's done more bad than good and I know someone could turn 'round and say "hang on blud, you're the one whose blocked keep out of it"...) Also and you know what I didn't like seeing, people even copying me; like making an account called MJH2MJH, MariaHickment13, MariaHickment ([1] even claimned to be me and was blocked by Kww; would I be a bad person for thinking, was that his way of trying to frame me? It may be a long shot but you know it's weird that should've happened init?), I know imitation is a form of flattery but at the same time how would they like it if I pretended to be them init? Anyways what's this plan of yours and will I like it? MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 14:35, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

If I am reading you correctly, the only accounts you have ever had were Mariahicky, MariaJaydHicky, MariaJaydHckment, MariaJaydHickment and MariaJaydHicky2; you have not created any other accounts and you have not been editing without logging in. Is that correct? - SummerPhD^v2.0 16:16, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Last time I edited on here was back in January 2012, under my old IP and I told Kww that I was leaving; I then moved into my (now ex) boyfriend's house, and then back in 2014 which Anna Frodesiak knew about, (she changed my block so I couldn't edit my talk page) but that happened two years ago and to be honest I was really pissed off with the whole lot of you (not going to lie SummerPhDv2.0, you were just as bad with all those notifications and sockpuppet things, you're not blameless) when like I told Kww I had left, why it didn't register to him again I'll never know so yeah basically those are my only accounts, again like I keep saying Kww knew about it, so technically I should've never been blocked or treated like a criminal when I told him my valid reason, so all of you look it to it how you want to init. MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 16:46, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

The NDublet account edited from 05:12, September 2, 2016 to 05:19. MariaJaydHicky2 was created 05:21, September 2, 2016, two minutes later. That's one hell of a coincidence. - SummerPhD^v2.0 18:30, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

God only knows; I created mine at 8:21 in the UK time; like I said I honestly think someone is trying to frame me; I have my suspicions on who, 'cause like I said this said person got the hump after I told them to stop doing something and they were gunning for me ever since. MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 20:43, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Continued discussion

Hi Maria. I'll start a subsection here for clarity to continue:

Let's try to avoid the details of how this got started. Right or wrong, that doesn't have much to do with the future. And it is the future we should both care about.

Can we start in a strange place? Is the following how you feel? If not, please tell me. I am listening.

"I started out trying to help Wikipedia. I was unfairly blocked. The admins were horrible to me. Screw them (pardon my language). I am angry. I am going to edit anyway and they cannot stop me."

Also, please tell me why you edit Wikipedia. To help Wikipedia? Because it's fun. You say. Again, I am listening.

My best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:21, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: Sorry, didn't reply had friends over (accidently burnt the lasagna) I saw what you wrote and been trying to think what to say (So if it comes really bad just know that I've had a couple - more like a few shots and i'M sorting it out) So here it goes:

• "I started out trying to help Wikipedia. I was unfairly blocked. The admins were horrible to me. Screw them (pardon my language). I was angry. I didn't edit for awhile been accused of stuff, would like another go on here as my main account (MariaJaydHIcky) if i Could."
• "Also, please tell me why you edit Wikipedia. To help Wikipedia? Because it's fun. You say." More like a bit of both and i Know before I was in seen to be in the wrong and accused of stuff but with what I know I know i could help improve Wikipedia.

I hope it makes sense MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 20:37, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Maria. That makes sense. What I hear you saying is that you were angry and felt wrongly accused. You like editing because it is fun and you want to help Wikipedia and help improve it.

Two points I am sure you will agree with:

• Making edits for five years which all get reverted is not fun or good for you.

• Making edits for five years which all get reverted is not good for Wikipedia because it takes volunteer time to revert. Those volunteers could be working elsewhere to help Wikipedia, but are instead undoing what you have done.

Your thoughts and feelings on that?

Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:08, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: I'm confused MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 18:56, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

That is okay. I would be too. I mean, if I were editing to please myself and all my edits were reverted, it would not please me. And if I edited to help Wikipedia but my edits were all reverted and cost Wikipedia lots of time, it would not please Wikipedia. So, the big question is, why are you editing? If you are angry at someone who treated you unfairly, the last thing you want to do is hurt the wrong people back, right? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:55, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

The laughable thing is this; @Anna Frodesiak:, I haven't been editing at all (apart from that one time in 2014 which we know about) and this month on this account, what I don't get is this; if my account hasn't been used since November 2011, I get the set up back then would've seemed to be a bit more fresher, they've copied what I've done, seen the four other accounts and think "we've got her, she's an easy target" but fast forward 5 years; how would you be able to remember something as small as that, it's like me to say to you what did you have to eat 5 years ago today? Including snacks and drink, you'd struggle to recall it (get where I'm coming from), so someone's either that obsessed with me they're wasting their time and effort; is it a known thing to Wikipedia and I'm not supposed to know about? I see bare IPs messaging bare admin saying "such and such account is a MariaJaydHicky sock, block it." You look at their edits and it's the only edit they've done, how the fuck if you're new would you know all about me? Unless if you're the one making all these accounts under different IPs and think you're trying to one up me, please Anna go back through Kww's January/February talk page and you'll see my IP where I told him I was leaving Wikipedia, it was a known fact, also I don't get; a lot of the CheckUser stuff they say they can't do it on other accounts as it's stale; by rights mine would be stale? If it hadn't been used since 2011 and once in 2014; which I'm starting to suspect near enough everyone on here and I ain't paranoid, but you've got to see it through my eyes and just answer me this Mrwallace05 is a sockpuppeteer who lives in the East region of the UK, I lived in London which is the South East region of the UK, roughly 70 miles between us, you telling me that in those 70 miles we're the same person who have the same IP? I don't think so, would you say someone who edited from L.A. is the same person in Chicago 'cause they both have a west in their location? No, see where I'm coming from? Surely now you can see it's a carve up? MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 15:49, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

I think I get it now. Two things I wonder about. You're not NDublet, Daisymaymoo, Babystar1, Allstarz, or Nikeygirl, right? Also, you've been watching these imposters for years, right? Like, between 2014 and now, you came to Wikipedia every few days, did not edit, but just came to observe these imposters and see what is happening? Is that right? Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:10, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak: no, I'm not any of them or Enteair, Addamchewy, MDNe (or anyone else I've been accused of), so can you kindly see into this [pillock] and find out who the hell they are how do they even know of me when they're new and what their problem is please? MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 20:14, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Maria. You last wrote to me here 18 September. That post to Bbb23 is 3 October and now you post here 6 hours later. How did you notice the Bbb23 post? Are you saying you do not edit, but simply check talk pages every several hours? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:56, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Anna Frodesiak, I can explain my whereabouts; basically I've been without internet since the 19th September; bollocked Sky Broadband and threatened to switch to Virgin Media, used up all my phone data and could be arsed to top it up until Sunday, when O2 refilled and reset it back ('cause it was bill day), came on yesterday to play a little game I like to call "Who am I Today?" (Rules are simple, find somewhere where there's internet connection, type in Wikipedia in Google type in the search bar user:MariaJaydHicky go onto "my sockpuppet" list and see who's the unlucky bastard that's been "confirmed as me" - fat chance 'cause for the 20000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000089 time I've not used this and they ain't me x 2000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000982) saw the additional people, saw that they were blocked by Bbb23, saw the IP's message (c'mon blud you're slacking didn't you realise I was going to find it? IF I was dead I'd still get accused by the unknown IP user - not suicidal just being blunt) saw that they were only active one day (one measly fucking day and they're new but they know Bbb23, they know MariaJaydHicky, they know how to tag that the IP and users that they are MariaJaydHicky... on my first day, I barely knew how to edit, I accidently deleted the Mariah Carey Butterfly album artwork and I was as a IP) I have now come to a conclusion of that that IP address person has access to any of the 82... IP and sock puppet has either access to both the 155.... IP and 82.... IP address and makes all these socks, then plays all Neighbourhood Watch person, if they're a new person how the fuck do they know about me? Anna when you started, did you know about anyone on here? You see where I'm getting at, all these people and their sad sick obsession is getting rather boring, live and let fucking live init? Please tell me you're starting to see where I'm coming from? MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 20:55, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Maria. Wow! I am totally starting to see where you are coming from.

This imposter is so, so, so clever. I think he is so clever that it is impossible for the sockpuppet staff here to tell you apart and so could never unblock you. The chance of that is zero because this imposter is just so, so good. I think he's won.

Well, where to go from here? So, obviously you will have to find another website like Wikia or something. I mean, it would be absurd to keep hanging around here obsessing over someone impersonating you, right? That would be a total waste of life. All you need to do now is go and you can carry on with a normal, fun life.

As for this terrible imposter, well, he may just continue to pretend to be you. We will, of course, just keep reverting everything he does. I guess that is his punishment, right? Ha ha ha. He can waste hours and hours and years of his life trying to edit, and with a click of a button, all is reverted. Dear oh dear. Some people really know how to waste their life. Well, the good thing is that it is not you. But the hard thing is for you to realize that it is time to give up and move on. But of course, that is the only sensible thing to do. I guess we are both sorry that it had to end this way. I wish you all the best, Maria. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:52, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak:, dunno if it sounds a bit sarcastic of if it's me, there's one bit where you wrote The chance of that is zero because this imposter is just so, so good. I think he's won to me and anyone else who reads it, it sounds like you're saying it looks like its hard work and you can't be arsed to try and sort it out, also I felt like you've wanted to hear an explination I tell you and it's like you don't believe anything I'm saying, you think I'm clutching at anything to make it sound genuine, also I kinda have an idea who the IP is.... SummerPhDv2.0, it's funny on all the IPs be it the 2A02. ones, the 82. ones etc. whenever they're involved with them they add the {{ipsock|MariaJaydHicky}} on their talkpage and so did that Neighbourhood Watch IP (from the 4th October) funny how that IP knew all about how to do that and knew of me, everytime "I'm supposedly edited something" SummerPhDv2.0 knows it's "me" (I'm thinking of taking that IP to Judge Rinder and sueing them for fraud) Also if your plan for me is to move on, there's onething I want you to do, delete every single one of my confirmed accounts the Mariahicky one, the MariaJaydHicky one, MariaJaydHickment and MariaJaydHckment one as that is the least that Wikipedia can do, I'll rather have my existance erased from Wikipedia then being framed for shit I never did, tell me what you think yeah? MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 06:32, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Maria. Well, I didn't mean to appear sarcastic. I'm just saying that there is really no way at all to distinguish you from the socks. It is technically impossible. So, it is not a question of not being "arsed to try". It is about impossibility. About believing you or not, well, that is really irrelevant because of that. You sound like a nice person, so I am just trying see a good future for you.

As for "sueing them for fraud", I'll assume that was just a joke. Users are blocked indefinitely for making legal threats.

Finally, we cannot delete accounts. So, this is an easy one. The cost to you in the future is fairly small, and that is to tolerate these accounts existing. Do not worry. Time will melt all of this into obscurity. Nobody notices or cares about these accounts being here. Wikipedia is a very, very big place. Really, the only good plan is to move over to Wikia or something. That is a great community. In life, you have to pick your battles. Some things are just not worth wasting precious life over. You are a precious person and life is short. Please, look toward something beautiful and new and fun. I mean that sincerely. Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:05, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

@Anna Frodesiak:, How long roughly does it take; 'cause 5 years down the line and it's like it's new to a lot of them here (IPs and SummerPhDv2.0 being the main ones here); is there a way you could have a word with SummerPhDv2.0 to tell them that they're wasting their time and stuff if we can't delete them on my MariaJaydHicky account can't we put a tag like left or something 'cause I hate every time I got to m phone there's a message saying so and so left a comment on your talk page or so and so mentioned you in a comment (and I ain't talking about Facebook or Instagram or Twitter) 'cause I want closure and I want to get on with my life too? MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 11:32, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Oi SummerPhDv2.0 funnily enough my IP starts "91.108.8" as with most of Bristol, not going to lie and say 86.... whatever it was wasn't mine at when I lived in Hackney and also seriously who goes around calling themselves "Lesbian Space Pope"? MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 15:10, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Also SummerPhDv2.0 You've been stalking my account; 'cause A) I didn't even ping you on here; and you tell me to get a life, trust I've got one doubt you have. MariaJaydHicky2 (talk) 15:12, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

As expected, you deleted my response and I suspect you will delete this one as well.

Enforcing a defacto ban is not stalking. It is courteous to address another editor directly when discussing them. This is why you are notified when we identify yet another sock.

Personal attacks while attempting to clear your name are not a good idea. - SummerPhD^v2.0 15:30, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

@SummerPhDv2.0: I'll have to get back to you, I had a massive comment that I wrote went to save it and it blanked my talk page 2A02:C7F:DE39:8400:30D7:8B1A:C33A:5B60 (talk) 16:06, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Um, oops. - SummerPhD^v2.0 16:17, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand. You say "...How long roughly does it take..." What is "it"? Also, are you saying you have some sort of email notification telling you when somebody edits your talk page?

And yes, I'm sure you would love to get some closure here. If there is some sort of email notification, I'm sure that can be turned off.

I'm afraid I really do not understand what you are saying. Am I getting this right? And what would you need to get closure here.

Best wishes, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:58, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Anna Frodesiak: You seem to be wasting your time. Maria is still insisting she was not behind all of those socks beginning with 2A02. At 16:04, October 21, 2016‎, she wrote a "massive comment", but something went wrong when she saved it and it blanked the page. One minute later, 2a02:c7f:de39:8400:30d7:8b1a:c33a:5b60 came along and explained that that is what happened. A half an hour earlier, that IP had been making the exact types of changes the previously documented socks had been making. One again, the "real" Maria just happened to appear here when the "person setting her up" was here and the edit timing just happened to be remarkably well timed to set up poor Maria. At this point, it is clear that either Maria has been socking all along or the "person" setting her up is actually MI6 in coordination with the CIA. Heck, several of the socks have explained their situations over the years. We've been picking up lots of totally innocent people who simply happen to make the same edits to the same articles, ignore requests not to do that, live in the same area and match each other on technical grounds:[2], [3], [4], [5], etc. MI6/CIA used Maria's "real" story (the boyfriend, etc.) but also created fake people. So now, when the real "real" Maria edits, she can't peacefully remove "pop" from various R&B articles without discussion or sources without someone thinking she's one of the fake "real" Marias or one of the fake people. We should probably just do away with SPI, categorize all songs as R&B (but definietly not pop) and call it a day. - SummerPhD^v2.0 14:25, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

• I've revoked Talk page access. She's created multiple socks even as she trolls on this page.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:45, 22 October 2016 (UTC)