User talk:Matthewmmiller

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Sitefinity

Hi, I see you've just created Sitefinity. Could I ask you provide some source for the claims that "Sitefinity powers over 6,000 websites" and "Among Sitefinity’s customers are organizations like KIA Motors, Quaker Oats, and the Vancouver Airport" so other readers and editors can verify them?

Also, since almost all your edits have been related to this product, I'll point you at WP:SPA, primarily for your information on how your edits are likely to be seen by other editors. If your involved with Sitefinity, you may have a conflict of interest, and you should check out Wikipedia's guidelines on such things. It doesn't stop you from editing (if you look at my user page, you'll see how I deal with my own edits with COI), but you should be aware of the guidelines to avoid arguments further down the road.

Take care, and welcome again to Wikipedia!

--me_and (talk) 11:43, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll add sources or take that out.

I have to admit, the rules to editing on Wikipedia seem pretty daunting. Because I am involved with Sitefinity professionally, I want to make sure the article is focused on Sitefinity's notability and does not come across as marketing-y or like an ad. I'd especially appreciate any feedback on tweaking the wording to a neutral POV.

--Matthewmmiller (talk) 18:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the rules are pretty intimidating. You'll probably find out most of them by falling afoul of them and being pulled up by another editor; there's no way you'll be able to memorize the whole lot. That's certainly what I did: I've been here, with varying degrees of activity, for several years, and I'm still learning new and obscure bits of policy (and occasionally tripping over bits that I really ought to know better for the time I spend here…)

I'm personally quite paranoid about conflicts of interest. I'm one of the main recent contributors to the Metaswitch article, and I'm also a Metaswitch employee, so I've made a point of flagging that on both the Metaswitch talk page and my own talk page. When I make an edit that I think could be at all controversial, I flag it and have another editor review it and add it for me; there's instructions on how to do that with the rest of the COI policy. As much as anything else, if someone later objects, I can at least point at the other editor who agreed the change was reasonable.

The article as written looks very good, considerably better than I'd expect from a new editor generally. I've just removed some POV from the features section (in particular, phrases like "user-friendly" are known as weasel words on Wikipedia—you need to say who finds the interface user friendly, rather than just asserting it to be the case without providing a source). Otherwise, I have no problem with it from a neutrality/POV perspective (something I'm really impressed with; it's very hard to get right, particularly as a new editor). The only issue I have is, as I mentioned above, that there's a couple of salient facts like the number of websites it powers that really need citations. I'd rather not lose that statement, as it's the main thing that establishes notability, i.e. that the subject is important enough to be included in Wikipedia.

As I say, I'm very impressed with the work you've done so far. Keep it up! We need more editors like you around the place ;)

--me_and 20:23, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I added the COI info to the talk page, and I replaced the "6,000 sites" with the most readily available independent data I could find.

--Matthewmmiller (talk) 03:38, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Wonderful, thank you! me_and 11:50, 13 September 2010 (UTC)