User talk:MisterSmithEnt

June 2024

Hello, I'm Pahunkat. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Mister Smith Entertainment have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Pahunkat (talk) 12:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is completely unorthodox. The information on the page was incorrect and damaging to the company. I was merely correcting the information. Not only did I spend a lot of time correcting the information but the changes made are not for advertising. Why aren't all the 'articles' on wiki being blocked? This seems to be a targeted attack on Mister Smith Ent for some reason. Please revert ALL the edits I made and all my work put back immediately. MisterSmithEnt (talk) 13:27, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So you believe that "They have forged strong partnerships with all the leading independent distributors, major studios and global platforms, leveraging the executive team’s robust relationships with top producers, agencies and financiers, and creating a brand that is synonymous with commercial quality." [1] complies with our neutral point of view policy? Nobody is targeting your company. Ordering us to put things back is not the way forward. The article on your company is not your property. While we are quite willing to consider input on article development from people employed by a company, such people have no authority here to control content. We rely on reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject to support the vast majority of content here. This account has been blocked because of the advertising nature of the edits being made and because the account represents a group, rather than an individual. You are welcome to personally make an account here representing just you and make recommendations for the article at the article's talk page (and not edit the article directly). However, it is important that you comply with our policy on paid editing and read and understand our conflict of interest guideline. We are quite happy to help you navigate this and will answer your questions. You can use the {{helpme}} template to ask questions, or leave messages on other people's talk page (like my talk page if you like). --Hammersoft (talk) 14:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is incredibly unhelpful. Reverting to the old incorrect information is damaging to the company. Why can't I go in make the changes to the filmography - that took me ages to update and cost me time. Blocking me because I wrote one sentence that wiki didn't like is rather reductive. The page is about the company I work for and we should be able to update it with correct information. Happy to omit the highlighted sentence and change it to something more basic. But compared to other pages on Wikipedia, our company page is inoffensive so yes, this does feel like we're being targeted. Why can't we be allowed to correct the information? MisterSmithEnt (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I noted, this account has been blocked for advertising and for representing a group. We do not permit accounts that represent a group, per our username policy. We will not permit this account to edit going forward. It's just not going to happen. As I noted above, you are welcome to create a new account that represents you and only you, and you are welcome to make recommendations at the article's talk page. Our conflict of interest guideline notes that "COI editors are strongly discouraged from editing affected articles directly, and can propose changes on article talk pages instead". We're asking you to follow that. That is your way forward. However, again as noted above, you must comply with our policy on paid editing. I'm sorry you find this is unhelpful, but this is how we operate. If you need assistance navigating this, I'm happy to help. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:19, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Very frustrating and no very inclusive. MisterSmithEnt (talk) 15:20, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We are 100% inclusive (and I do mean that from a DEI perspective as well). However, we do not allow companies to dictate content on the project. I'm sure you can understand how problematic this would be in the environment of an encyclopedia. If we were an industry superindex, sure. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:32, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll give my 2 cents here. Hammersoft has explained our policies on COI and paid editing well, it's something that all editors who have an external relationship with an article must follow and not just you. The changes to the text involved the NPOV issues mentioned above, in addition to that sourced content was removed and it wasn't clear why it was removed. If you want, there are instructions to make an unblock request in the template below but you should read the policies linked above first. Pahunkat (talk) 15:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to us targeting your company; this is simply not the case. Please observe Category:Wikipedians who are indefinitely blocked for promotional user names where it says "out of approximately 321,333 total". More than 320,000 companies before yours have attempted to use Wikipedia for promotional purposes. You are not being targeted nor are you by any means alone. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome to point out factually incorrect statements on the article talk page if there are any. Just don't edit the article directly. Nardog (talk) 22:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because it has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Also, your username gives the impression that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

If you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization, you may request unblock and a username change. In your reasons, you must:

Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the paid-contribution disclosure requirement; and
Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked; and
Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked; and
Provide a new username.

To do this, post the text {{unblock-spamun|Your proposed new username|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked.

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