User talk:MsLeaSalonga

October 2013

Hello, MsLeaSalonga. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Lea Salonga, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

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Dear Blake,

Many thanks for the words of caution. Rest assured that when I do eventually perform the surgery required to make the Wikipedia entry on me, my life and career factual, I shall do with without any of the added biases that a fan might employ when writing. It's just that there is much more written here than what I actually did (for example, the Asian tour of Cinderella made no visits to South Korea and Japan, stopovers that, although would've been great for the tour, just didn't happen. A few cast members have remarked the same.

Much appreciated,

Lea Salonga MsLeaSalonga (talk) 16:11, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! I just wanted to make sure that what you add or change to your article conforms to the guidelines here, nothing much, and that you should perhaps contribute to other articles or submit a new one if you know something that's worth mentioning here in Wikipedia. Other than that it's quite an honour for you to come by here - there are a bunch of other notable individuals besides you who regularly or occasionally edit here on Wikipedia. Blake Gripling (talk) 00:55, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Blake, I'd actually love to, if there's something I could make a contribution to. In the meanwhile, I shall stick to my Wikipedia page. The edits will start coming soon... and I promise, no more blurbs at the beginning. =) MsLeaSalonga (talk) 19:16, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, no problem with that. BTW did you see my reply to your Twitter post? Blake Gripling (talk) 09:00, 4 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Coming to your concert

Dear Lea,

Thank you, for bringing me so much joy with your wonderful voice over the years. I'm coming to the Shanghai concert on Nov 29. I hope you could sing more songs from Miss Saigon. I used to watch your performance on YouTube, but now I finally got the chance to see you live on stage. Is there going to be a "Duet A Whole New World with Lea Salonga" session?

Regards,

@Yuhuan Jiang

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Hi there,

Because the concert celebrates the work of Boublil and Schonberg, the music will focus only on their shows. So we will not have duets from any work that isn't theirs. But yes, Miss Saigon is nicely featured.

Lea @MsLeaSalonga MsLeaSalonga (talk) 16:13, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@MsLeaSalonga:: Foolish me... I was too jealous of Jared Young (see this video) and other people who were lucky enough to duet with you on stage. I never should bring about A Whole New World. Sorry about that! Anyway, speaking of Miss Saigon, I recently finally got two nice copies of Miss Saigon CD (both from 1990 by GEFFEN, sadly not by the London record company, DECCA), after an intensive obsession with your performance for a year and a half on YouTube (I liked, specifically, your low voices, as in "we have been blessed you and I", "frail as a flower in the morning", "I would rather die", and your rendition of Sun and Moon with your clear young voice back then. Now you usually sing this song with much more resonance and vibrato, as in your Live Album Vol. 1). I hope you could appear in the encore of one of the London revival shows. I just typed too much, because I got your reply! "understand, you were only a name till tonight." And by the way, welcome to Wikipedia! I got frustrated with those restrictions at first, too. But don't worry, lots of people are willing to help you.

And you won't look back
You can go the distance
And you'll stay on track
No you won't accept defeat
It's an uphill slope
But you won't lose hope
Till you go the distance
And your journey is complete

@Yuhuan Jiang Wiki Signature: Jack920910 (talk) 17:10, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

welcome

Hi Lea, I wanted to welcome you to wikipedia. Before you start large edits to your bio, you may want to read this Wikipedia:AUTO#IFEXIST. I understand that you want to correct inaccuracies in your biography, and there is no policy against making changes, but there are some guidelines to follow to avoid problems - the main one is that changes need to be sourced to reliable sources. I'm sorry the birth year was wrong - it looks like that change was made by an anonymous vandal a few hours before you changed it back (see [1]). In looking through your article history, unfortunately there seem to be a fair number of vandals, but usually the vandalism is reverted pretty quickly, but it's possible some of those changes have remained leaving inaccuracies - this kind of vandalism happens with high profile celebrities. Now that you've given more attention to your article, more editors will be watching it, and will hopefully be able to revert any vandalism more quickly. If you need help finding sources to back up changes you want to make, please post on the talk page of your article and editors can help find reliable sources. Again, welcome to wikipedia, if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. One more thing - the main photo of you is a bit blurry - if you have a publicity photo or headshot that you prefer and are willing to release under a free license, I'd be happy to help you get it uploaded. (see Wikipedia:Contact_us_-_Subjects if you have other concerns) --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 22:30, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I saw your tweet about whether you are considered a reliable source. I can understand your point - of course you know more about your life than newspaper articles, etc - but the problem is, if we let subjects of biographies add unsourced information, it would be hard to manage and separate out truth from fiction. Let's take a specific example - suppose there is a newspaper article that says you performed at venue X in 2010 - but you know that concert was cancelled. So, we could first look for a source that says that concert is cancelled, and would likely trust that source over the source that says it was not - we know that sources can get things wrong. But if there is a case where there is one source claiming X and you are claiming Y, but you don't have any sources to back up Y, a way to get around it would be for you to do an interview or even a blog post, where you say "According to this article, I did this, but I didn't" - once you publish that on your personal blog, we can then cite that accordingly and make the correction - but it has to be published somewhere other than wikipedia. I think a lot of people would love to help you correct any errors in your biography, so why don't we start by making a list of inaccuracies, and then we can find out if we can source the changes, and if they're unsourceable, you could write a public blog post about it that we could cite and that may suffice to make the correction (save minor errors, which you could just correct by yourself, and I don't think people will dispute it) There may even be some cases where there is material here that is simply not sourced at all - in other words, a good faith editor simply misread the sources - in which case, we can easily correct that as well. Does that make sense? Your insights into what looks wrong will be very helpful, so let's start there. I'm sorry if wikipedia rules seem bizarre to you, but there are reasons for most of them... --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 15:48, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just looked into the issue you pointed out above re: asian tour of Cinderella. Those venues were listed in sources before the tour started, and I haven't been able to find any sources that give the full list of venues where you actually performed, so for now I just cut it down to note that the tour started in Manila in 2008. I'm assuming this sort of thing will come up frequently - newspaper articles are published about the plans for a tour, but then cancellations happen - in those cases, since the article was published before the tour, it's not really a reliable source for what actually happened on the tour... Thus, while adding information requires sources, REMOVING unsourced/incorrect information is much easier. In any case, let us know what else is wrong and we'll try to fix or help you do so. best, --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 16:07, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Hello, MsLeaSalonga, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

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Welcome to Wikipedia

Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw your note that you will be editing your biography article over the next few days. While Wikipedia does have policies concerning conflicts of interest, if your edits are neutral and factual, as I trust they will be, you are welcome to make them. Alternatively, you can draw any inaccuracies in the article to another user, such as myself, and I will be glad to address them.

If you have any questions about what types of edits should be made, or about the mechanics of editing, you can post your questions here and someone will respond to them. Questions about what belongs in the article can also be raised at Talk:Lea Salonga.

For the benefit of administrators or other editors concerned that this might be an impersonation account, please see https://twitter.com/MsLeaSalonga. Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:32, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically, this [2] from her verified twitter account, referring to this edit. So I don't think there's any doubt here.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 22:51, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to help fix the article

I'm sorry that you Wikipedia biography included more things than what you actually have done. Not only does it reflect on you, but it reflects on the people you work with. The South Korea and Japan stopovers post was made October 6, 2010 through this edit by someone who appears to have been in Manila when they made the edit. That was the only edit they made to Wikipedia. Wikipedia, being "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit", receives contributions from people of all ages and from everywhere in the world. Article entries should not have errors or unfair material and editors spend much of their time trying to fix these. The Lea Salonga article has been revised since your first post.[3] However, if more revisions are needed, I would be happy to help you fix the article. Feel free to post on my talk page User talk:Jreferee and let me know of any changes that you want made to the article. -- Jreferee (talk) 12:06, 5 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A cookie for you!

Just wanted to give you a belated welcome to the Wikipedia editing community. Hope you enjoy your time here. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 21:27, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some bubble tea for you!

It is so nice when a notable person such as yourself volunteers with us. (P.S. My Filipino partner loves you!). Bearian (talk) 23:10, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]