User talk:MusicLover2786

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February 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Warped Tour, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. --IllaZilla (talk) 02:03, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

{{help me}} I was wondering why you did not find the information I added to the Warped Tour page constructive? It is a part of the tour that people enjoy and there is no information about it on the page. Please let me know!! MusicLover2786 (talk) 05:19, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Please look at the article's page history. From that you can see the edit summary for the removal as "rv load of POV". Rv is short for revert; POV is short for point of view, and is a reference to our policy that requires articles be written from a neutral point of view.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Fuhghettaboutit is correct. There were a few policy-based problems with the paragraph you added: (1) It was entirely unreferenced, so it failed our policy of verifiability. (2) Because it contained substantive claims that were not referenced to any source, it also failed our policy on original research. (3) Statements like "at the staggering price of $10 per beer" represent your own opinions and thus fail the policy on neutral point of view.

Finally, I simply didn't see the need for it. Almost every major concert venue sells alcohol, and at every festival event I've ever been to (which is quite a few) the alcohol is restricted to a particular area (the "beer garden", as you call it). It's also important to note that the alcohol is sold by the venue, not by the Warped Tour itself. When you go to see a band play at an arena and you buy nachos or a beer, you're not buying your nachos and beer from the band, or even from the concert promoter, you're buying them from the venue. Your statement about the beer garden being located next to the smaller stages so that "patrons of the Beer Garden can still enjoy the music they are there to see" is also not always true: At both Warped Tour venues that I've been to (the Cricket Wireless Amphitheatre in San Diego and Dodger Stadium in Los Angeles), the alcohol area is inside the amphitheater/stadium itself—where the venue's concessions stands are located—while the tour is out in the parking lot. The alcohol area is nowhere near any of the stages. In summary, the fact that there's a beer garden does not need mentioning as such a thing is commonplace at festival events and is an aspect of the venue rather than the tour. --IllaZilla (talk) 16:13, 11 February 2011 (UTC)