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Patrick McGoohan

I removed the recent death tag. Over two weeks is not really recent. The consensus at Template talk:Recent death seems to be that the tag should be up only for as long as the death is in the news. – ukexpat (talk) 21:20, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

• Ok, no problem. I did not know what the time frame was. FYI - the death tag is still on Ricardo Montalbán, who died the day after Patrick McGoohan.Oanabay04 (talk) 21:27, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I just deleted from Ricardo Montalbán, thanks for mentioning that. – ukexpat (talk) 22:54, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem :-) Oanabay04 (talk) 14:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

People's Temple

Thanks for your changes to this article. Overlinking can be difficult to notice in a large article. I was hoping to encourage you to use an edit summary when you are making even minor changes to an article like this. It helps those of us who watch the article to know what was done and avoid having to check through several small revisions. Thanks! Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

If there is one thing I know I am seriously guilty of, it is not using the "edit summary" feature more often. I tend to make a few changes, save them, then go back to take a look. Gotta cut that out. Take care!Oanabay04 (talk) 15:13, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Our Gang Silent Films

Hello Oanabay04. Thanks for all the work you’ve done. I would like to contribute to the Our Gang articles and notice that you’ve done quite a bit there. Would you object to my expanding some of these articles? Particularly, the silent Our Gang films. I’ve already started on “One Terrible Day.” I don’t want to interfere with one of your projects, so please let me know. Perry Hotter (talk) 12:08, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Perry Hotter. Oh gosh no, by all means, please feel free to add and expand. Actually, I only really created/worked on the first 18 or so Our Gang films (up to Stage Fright (1923 film). The bulk of the entries were created by Marckd. I have cleaned up a good deal of Marckd's work, as the user's writing style is not the greatest. However, this person did lay the groundwork for these entries, so that is good. Most of the work I have done is really on The Three Stooges' films. Thanx for the kind words; greatly appreciated! And thanx for your help.Oanabay04 (talk) 13:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

New York City Subway

Hi,

I saw your multiple edits to New York City Subway today. You seem to be confused between a line and a service. Many of the route bullets you inserted refer to a service as a line. Please check out New York City Subway nomenclature to help you distinguish between a line and a service. Thanks! Acps110 (talk) 00:43, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanx for pointing this out to me. I did not even know a page like New York City Subway nomenclature existed - very helpful. I will definitely remember this moving forward.Oanabay04 (talk) 02:59, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Certainly! You may consider joining our project at Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation. There is a great deal of coordination and explanation there, not just for the subway but all the other public transportation options too. Acps110 (talk) 03:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Also, there's a cool option for linking an bullet to the correct service page. For example use {{NYCS-bull-small|S|Franklin Avenue Shuttle}} to display an bullet for the Franklin Ave Shuttle. Acps110 (talk) 03:29, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Great! I was trying to figure out how 2 do that - thanx!Oanabay04 (talk) 03:36, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I have seen what you were doing with the bullets. I have to respectfully disagree for two reasons: 1). Including the bullets within prose in an article primarily serves as decoration or aesthetic purposes. Per MOS:ICON, this is discouraged. (As for the bullets being elsewhere, like in a subway station infobox, that is not prose and they serve to illustrate the service for that station only.) 2). The NYCS claims copyright to the bullets, i.e. [1]. Wikipedia [specifically, the uploader of the images] says the icons are "in the public domain, because it consists entirely of information that is common property and contains no original authorship." I don't know who is correct, but this debate signals to me that we should apply the bullets in careful circumstances. Regardless of the copyright issue, my first reason is my main objection. Tinlinkin (talk) 22:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your input.While I agree that the bullet usage can fall under decoration and aesthetic usage, i disagree on that concept for public transit. Those bullets are everywhere in the system. I have found that a great many users of the NYCS Wikipedia pages respond the notoriously intimidating system better with the bullets rather than a letter or number. As the NYCS has been pushing the color/bullet system heavily for the past 30 years, their usage brings more familiarity to each line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oanabay04 (talk • contribs) 20:42, 31 December 2009

Sure, but what would happen if Wikipedia publishes these NYCS pages into a paper encyclopedia? Would you like the appearance of pages then? I agree that the bullets would be helpful from the readers' point of view (as well as the NYCS being an intimidating system to understand), but they just don't work well in prose because they are not conventional. Books I've read about the NYCS usually do not have these bullets in the prose. You wouldn't catch publications like the New York Times doing this even if they have the capability to do so. If any more context is needed for a number or letter service, the hyperlink is there. Tinlinkin (talk) 06:58, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

"Books I've read about the NYCS usually do not have these bullets in the prose. You wouldn't catch publications like the New York Times doing this even if they have the capability to do so." Ah, but this is not a book, nor a newspaper; it is an internet link. If this becomes a paper encyclopedia or a newspaper, yes, it looks odd and out of place. Must compare apples to apples. "They just don't work well in prose because they are not conventional." This is Wikipedia, it can be edited by anyone. The polar opposite of "conventional." Thanx for your input.Oanabay04 (talk) 13:28, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Please stop inserting {{NYCS-bull-small}} into prose. We are here to improve the encyclopedia, not just make aesthetic edits that break other functionality. For example, Wikipedia does exist in hard-copy print. Check out my book here... User:Acps110/Books/New York City Subway System. I still have not ordered my copy because there are many instances of {{NYCS-bull-small}} messing up the formatting. Load the book and either, click "Order book from PediaPress" and look at the preview or download the entire book as a PDF, to see the formatting errors.

Secondly is display in Google Earth. Any station article that has coordinates automatically shows up on Google Earth if the Wikipedia source is checked in the "Geographic web" section. This is part of the standard installation of Google Earth. The pop-up balloon only shows the lead section of the article with very simple rendering. It can only display text, images and links. Templates and any other stuff is not shown. For example "Canal Street is served by the , , and trains at all times." That's not useful. I simplified the display of Marcy Avenue (that version here) (among others), but now Google Earth is displaying your version with no trains listed. (Google Earth only updates from a database dump once a month.) Please stop. Acps110 (talk) 18:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

The Google Earth issue is a very different matter. "Canal Street is served by the , , and trains at all times" is bad. If an edits ruins the functionality of something else, then (Google Earth having a problem), then I will stop. As for the book, I downloaded as a PDF. Looks good; the formatting "errors" are minor.Oanabay04 (talk) 16:25, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! Happy editing. Acps110 (talk) 13:02, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

R8 SEPTA

Nice work. I've spent the last few days looking this stuff up, no wonder they are the SEPTIC rail. Some of the stations stand, looking at Google, mind that Google is far from CC-BY. Interesting how stupid they are sometimes. (Good work on the articles btw. :) )Mitch32^{(Live from the Bob Barker Studio at CBS in Hollywood. Its Mitch!)} 02:30, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I thought I recognized your name from this previous post. Glad to know you are a NYC Subway fan! Oanabay04 (talk) 15:50, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Dogs is Dogs and Pups Is Pups

Thanks for the image uploads! My favorite two Our Gang pictures! — HarringtonSmith (talk) 22:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

You are quite welcome. I have been meaning to upload all the Our Gang title cards and finally got around to. Glad you like it!Oanabay04 (talk) 23:31, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

One Terrible Day

Oanabay - Thanks for your help on the One Terrible Day page, I need lots of help there. But are you sure the possessive pronoun "her" should be changed to "his?" The sentence is talking about the character Farina, not the actor, Allen Hoskins. I am almost certain that the Farina character is female in this film, as is true in several of the early Our Gang silent shorts, in spite of being portrayed by a little boy. One Terrible Day was one of four "Our Gang" shorts made in Spring and early Summer of 1922 and in all of the others, Farina is a little girl. I watched the film again and actually found no real proof, but I did find a hint. Jackie cuts off her/his pigtail to use for fishing bait. The pigtail seems to indicate a female character. But I also checked with the "Lucky Corner" web site and found this statement:

The 9.5mm copy refers to him as 'her,' but it isn't an original inter-title.

Would you mind if I respectfully request you to reconsider? Perry Hotter (talk) 01:31, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

I must admit; I am not sure. I was thrilled to even see any type of photo from One Terrible Day. I will defer to you on this one. Based on that you are saying with the 9.5 copy, Farina probably was first billed as a female character. They did the same for Buckwheat as first, so it is not surprising. I am not an expert on the silents, since they are so hard to come by.Oanabay04 (talk) 02:55, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks Oanabay. I'll go ahead and change it back if it isn't already.Perry Hotter (talk) 03:23, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Running time punctuation

Hi, saw your edit at Teacher's Pet correcting the running time, and wanted to say that minutes and seconds of time are usually expressed as: 20:40. When they're stated as 20'40", it's minutes and seconds as fractions of an arc or circumference, as in longitude/latitude. I'll go ahead and fix Teacher's Pet. Thanks for all your work on Our Gang! — HarringtonSmith (talk) 16:56, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

No problem about the time. I was basing the ' " format off of the one used in calculating times in The Complete Three Stooges: The Official Filmography and Three Stooges Companion book. Funn that you should have chosen Teacher's Pet. I am trying to do screen shots of the title cards from all the films, and of course, Teacher's Pet does not have any titles; just the spoken intros by Beverly and Betty Mae Crane. FYI - I added running time to all the sound shorts up until 1944 using the ' " format. I will go back and convert to : . Thanx!Oanabay04 (talk) 21:24, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

FAR: Real Love (John Lennon song)

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Margaret Dumont

I don't know if you can cast your mind back to 2006 and this edit. Do you remember what source you had for that change? It now seems that 1882 is indeed the correct year - rather than 1889, which is what most sources say - but it would be useful to find more secondary sources (we have a primary source). Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Selena

Hello! what changes did you imply on the article Selena section "Philanthropy"? Thank you! AJona1992 (talk) 20:59, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

• Hi - no real changes. Just moved the period (.) before the reference instead of after. Oanabay04 (talk) 21:21, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

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Death of John Lennon

I noticed you reverted my changes to this article without providing an edit summary. First of all, it is not necessary to point out that Lennon was shot dead; after all, the article is titled "Death of John Lennon". Second, the bit about the outpouring of grief was unsourced and not germaine to the focus of the article - once again, the Death of John Lennon. Third, there was no reason the enlarge the image of Chapman; it fit quite well along side the text as it was. Please don't edit war, but if you have anything constructive to contribute, please feel free to discuss it first. Cheers.Radiopathy •talk• 18:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

• Hello - I forgot to source the "outpouring of grief" quote. This has been resolved.Oanabay04 (talk) 18:45, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Please familiarise yourself with what constitutes a reliable source; a link to a site about Marxism is neither acceptable nor funny.Radiopathy •talk• 18:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
    • I beg your pardon. I was not trying to be funny in even the most remote way. Reading into that is borderline sick, my friend. There is no neeed to edit war here. There are endless sources that have said time and time again that Lennon's death created an outpouring of grief on an unparelled scale; it almost goes with saying.Oanabay04 (talk) 19:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Victor Garber personal life: section erased.

Was it you who deleted the section in Victor Garber's article about his sexuality and his partner? If yes, what was the reason?Dollvalley (talk) 15:53, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

• No, it was not me. What was erased, the entire section? Not cool. I just looked through the article at it appears that 99.235.196.181 erased the section. I restored it. Oanabay04 (talk) 03:31, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Image File:West_Chester_1986.jpg

Hello Oana! I am a local railroad employee that works for the West Chester Railroad and I was wondering where you got this image from. These images are very hard to come by and it is the first of its kind that I have seen. Do you have any other pictures of later operations of SEPTA on the truncated section of the Media/Elwyn Line? Thank you. (RCman2626 (talk) 02:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC))

Hello. This image first appeared in a railway publication from 1999. Feel free to use this image at your leisure. It is true that finding images from the truncated section of the Media/Elwyn line during the 1980s is practically impossible. I am trying to acquire as many images as possible for the Fox Chase Rapid Transit Line as well.

Hello, RCman2626. I have been volunteering at the West Chester Railroad lately. I suspect we have worked together without realizing it. Shoot me a private message sometime, as I just acquired a Penn Central/SEPTA timetable from November 2, 1975.Oanabay04 (talk) 19:27, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Mary Ann Jackson

Hello, I am wondering if you can remember what the source of the information you added in this edit to the Mary Ann Jackson article was? We have received an email through WP:OTRS contesting the information concerning Jackson's death. Skomorokh 10:51, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

I've removed the information and started a thread at WP:BLPN#Mary Ann Jackson, could you weigh in there?  Sandstein  21:55, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

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