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{{helpme}} Hello: I am trying to compile and post an article of (notable, not all) CollegeHumor staffs, who write and act in their own original content. People tried posting articles on some of the notable staffs, but they were rejected (see Sarah Schneider, Streeter Seidell). So I would like to suggest a page with details on notable CollegeHumor staffs (one article on multiple people):

Why I think staffs should be mentioned on Wikipedia:
- Increasing popularity of CollegeHumor content and exposure in notable media outlet → some of its staffs appear in other media and became more famous on their own
- The CollegeHumor Show on MTV
Why do I think this is a problem
- I believe they are still not "notable", by themselves (based on previously deleted articles) - they would hold more significant when placed together in an article.

The questions are:

Is this okay (i.e. maybe not subjected for deletion?)
Any suggestion on formatting this article? I looked through Wikipedia guidelines on editing etc. but could not find any helpful article specific for what I had in mind. Closest thing was on Lists, which is just lists and does not hold any details on its members.

Hey there. Essentially this sounds like you want to write an article on why YOU think these people are important, either in their own articles or in one list. The key point is that Wikipedia isn't a repository for Original Research/Thought. What you need to provide is why OTHER people think these people are notable. This takes the form of reliable sources which are independent of the original material. Hope that clears it up? I'll watch your talk page if you want to talk through this further here :) --Ged UK 15:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the response! No, I don't want to post on why I think these people are notable (You're right - not appropriate for Wikipedia). What I wanted to do was: create a page, List of CollegeHumor Staffs for instance, write detailed biography materials on each person, backed with references. What I want to ask is that: I've never seen such detailed list on Wikipedia, and I don't know if it is an acceptable style. psquared2 18:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

If the people are not notable individually I can't see how a collection of them would be notable enough for inclusion. Have you read WP:LISTS? -- Mufka ^(u) ^(t) ^(c) 16:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was about to say something similar. It sounds like you want to write about a number of people, who you think would not be appropriate for their own page as they might not meet notability guidelines individually. If that is the case, then putting them together in one article will not solve the notability issue. Several non-notables do not make a notable. I am saying this with the best of intentions; I don't want you to waste a lot of your time editing something which would then be deleted. Notability may appear confusing, but it's really quite simple: if something is not in national papers, books, or other reliable sources - in other words, if it's not 'famous' - then it doesn't have a place on Wikipedia.

If you would like further clarification, please give us an example of what you would write - perhaps about 1 person. You could make that in your user area, such as User:Psquared2/test. Use another helpme, or talk to us live, and we'd be happy to evaluate something specific - ie we could say whether or not we felt that it met requirements.

My general advice to users looking to get more involved in Wikipedia, is to visit the [[Wikipedia:Community portal|community portal and check out the 'help out' section. It's a great way to meet people, and to learn more about editing Wikipdia. In your case, you might also be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Internet culture

I hope this help, best of luck, Chzz ► 17:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! psquared2 20:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

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Psquared2, good luck, and have fun. --- CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 14:17, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

March 2009

Template:The CollegeHumor Show and Template:CollegeHumor.com have been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussions at the templates' entries on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Greggers ^{(t • c)} 16:01, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]