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Questions about being added[edit]

Hi Everyone,

Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but not sure how to get started. I am an amateur street artist in Chicago, and several people who have seen my work on the street have suggested I look into being added to wiki. Is there anyone in the community that I may be able to speak with, show them my work, answer some questions, and see if it's possible to be added to wiki? Any suggestions on how to proceed would be most welcome.

Thanks in advance,

Rob

Rehgn3 (talk) 01:40, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rob, a reading of WP:NOTABILITY and WP:RELIABLE should be helpful. If there have been articles published about you in objective reliable sources that would support your significance, that would be a first step. And then it is always better for someone else with whom you're not associated, per WP:COI and WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY, to write it. But do keep in mind that Wikipedia isn't a blog or a registry; articles must meet content WP:GUIDELINES. Cheers, JNW (talk) 01:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank JWN, this is a big help. So really to be added someone independant needs to create an article? I am a little confused though, is it possible for articles to be written on wikipedia, or do articles need to be from an outside source? Also, is it a breach of wikipedia's best practices to look for someone here that may be interested in reveiwing my work to see if it noteworthy?
Thanks again for the speedy response —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rehgn3 (talkcontribs) 02:01, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's best if someone other than yourself, your friends, family, or agent write the article. The article must be original, that is, it can not be a word for word duplication of content from somewhere else, which would be a copyright violation. It must, however, be based on reliable sources. In other words, you can't just say "Clem is a famous artist who's adored by galleries and dogs"; you must supply a reference to a reliable objective published or online source that has said these things about Clem. So, it has nothing to do with having one's work reviewed for quality: all that matters to the encyclopedia is whether reliable sources (not blogs) have acknowledged the artist and their work through reviews, articles, etc. Without these sources an article will be deleted. An example of a contemporary artist whose notability has been established through publications, museum shows, and achievements, as supported by objective sources: Bruno Lucchesi. JNW (talk) 02:19, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just to emphasise what JNW said - the quality of your work is irrelevant to Wikipedia. The only thing that matters is getting third-party media coverage from newspapers and the like - and it's got to be a bit more than a passing mention in the Nowhereville Gazette. WP:ARTIST is the specific guideline for artists; in general, if you've never done a solo show or noone's heard of you outside of Illinois, then a Wikipedia article about you will probably get deleted, unless you've done feature interviews with the Chicago Tribune or something. Unfortunately that requirement does discriminate against street art by its very nature, but Banksy shows that genre isn't necessarily a barrier to inclusion in Wikipedia - all that matters is those third-party references. If you want someone to review your media coverage, I'm sure someone at the Visual Arts project would be happy to help. I hope this doesn't come across as too heavy-handed, but I'm sure you can understand why there's got to be some kind of cut-off point for inclusion. And you certainly gain big brownie points for having the cluefulness to ask about this stuff - it puts you in a tiny minority! Cheers. Le Deluge (talk) 16:04, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]