User talk:Shshshsh/Archive 16

Hey its my birthday today!! You may wish the bald one happy birthday!!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 09:06, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah thanks!! Its strange but it doesn't feel like my birthday! The older we get the less you sort of think about it. I can't believe I'm 25!! Can you believe its May already? Its only seems a few weeks ago I wished you a happy new year!! I had a lovely Sunday lunch anyway. I spoilt it a bit by eating too many jelly babies though - like I did at Christmas lol ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 11:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

We'll to watch out for the Aishwarya Rai article. For some reason somebody keeps removing her image ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:04, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

LOL heres some interesting stubs. Tteok & Kitchen Utensil Museum, Garak Fish Market and Afghan National Army Regional Hospital. Heheheh ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:40, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

You can just tell that the fish market is extremely potent can't you. I know what Cardiff fish market is like -this one looks about 10 times the size and barely tolerable to the nose. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:44, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

What next do you think? A Belizean trumpet player, or a Kiribatian knitting organization?? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Well I had to start Flag of the Gambier Islands! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:57, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

There we are some more Liberian National Museum, Liberia Herald and Oral Fuentes (a Belizean reggae artist) ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 19:50, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh not many edits today. It is my birthday after all!! But I happen to enjoy editing wikipedia and eating toffee popcorn at the same time! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:25, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Mmm perhaps I could devise an article aroundthis an overview of pioneering papers in Africa. The earliest newspapers in Africa tells much about colonialism and is connected to some very interesting topics I think. Anyway time to log out now and go out and have some more fun. Saludos! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:33, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Everthing OK User:Shshshsh? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Well hopefully the day will come when nobody has to worry about the Zinta article any longer as it becomes a super FA and everybody can move on to other pastures. People haven't exactly made life easy in reagrds to it have they. Remember the turnout last time at the FA? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 17:07, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Have you asked him to respond? I really think its wrong that the outcome of an FA is decided by one person ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 17:20, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Mmm I don't know. I know you said about her being a tom boy was very important in her earlier life but is it an essential sentence for the article? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 17:42, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Well they both mean exactly the same thing lol!!! . This is what I'm talking about when people say this article "is in need of a thorough copyedit" . Complete twaddle. Its fine as it is and has been for many months. There is certainly no worse a quality than in the Emma I'm Hermione Gtanger article. Well if people think differently they should try looking at 99% of the other articles on wikipedia . Well over half of these are utter rubbish. You should see some of the crap I've seen in some of the Mexican articles I've been shifting through ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 19:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I've just looked at it and in places I have to admit parts have come full circle. Sentences I thought I had addressed before "e.g she was recognized for her role in ... in 2000 " in the intro . Recognized by whom? That is such a generalized statement I had removed this and sorted parts before and has now its gone back to what it was before. It has been over edited since I last looked at it and this has affected how the article flows in parts. I'll try to work on it tomorrow if there is no objection as I haven't touched it for months ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 19:35, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

As long as you haven't completed reverted my other edits which I believe are an improvement. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:48, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

What is immensely frustrating is that somebody will oppose on the grounds that it has a few images when FA's like Diane Keaton have 4. Its just double standard and different views on "policy" that results in many FA's getting thrown out. Unfortunately FA candidacies attract negative people rather than positive people but what can ya do? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000?

What? I was certain you said 20 minutes for a debut was very long before and they rarely get any time at all. Well either way the article does absolutely nothing to explain why this is unusual. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Well if it is customary for the camera to never leave their faces for two and half hours just because they are making their debut forgive me but there are still some awkward sentences in there that people outside the world of Bollywood may be confused by ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I've added an important word "just" 20 minutes just to clear it up for the less intelligent of us around here. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Only then LOL LOL LOL. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Hehe. However "a mere 20 minutes of screentime". Just kidding lol only is fineatastic . Spiffing my young chap. Bottle of chardonay and quails eggs. Scoff scoff. Bottle of bubbly down at the paddock. Black Stallion!! Splendid. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:54, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The article is sticking to British english or not? In the UK we spell them as catalogues not catalogs. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 22:06, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes i have a strong english accent with a trace of a welsh accent. You know the actor Timothy Dalton -I have similar accent to him. He is welsh but also well spoken. I stand out actually where I live because I am very well spoken and most people think I am english. My dad is well spoken too so I must get it from him. I am using American spelling because it is "American wikipedia" as much as I dislike using American spelling I've got used to using it as often people would correct my British spelling as if it is wrong lol ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 11:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Hehe that 20 minute thing was funny last night! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 11:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I see that user dropped his oppose now. But because of Tony it will fail you think? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't care?? I doubt very much you mean this. Obviously you do otherwise you wouldn't have worked so hard at it. I agree I also think it is something to be proud of and said this even when they demoted it back to B. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

A wikibreak? Where are you going? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:43, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Mr Bigglesworth has done a spot of editing today all by himself

Things looking good? WOuld you like me to continue editing it and help out? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:28, 7 May 2008 (UTC) Well I must admit I thought the response to it would have been much better. What has been discussed as problematic is really very minor and could be sorted very quickly. Nobody has really given an adequate argument in my view as to why it isn't of a high enough quality. There could be a few stray commas in the article or some sentences that need reshaping but I am certain this could be done quickly. WHat does my head in is that a good editor copy edits and people still say it needs somebody "with a good command of the english language" to copy edit it further. I remain firm in my belief that it isn't as bad as these people say. I hope this means something ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

The article hasn't changed much in the last few days except the changes you and I made. What made him change his mind? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:51, 7 May 2008 (UTC) I'll have a read a bit later. Tomorrow I'll try to make it a priority and edit the rest of the article. As I do so I may find some things that could be polished. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Thats great news that the people who oppose are doing what they feel right. Fingers crossed ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC) No thats three unneccessary gushing comments in a row in one sentence. Already the number of positive quotes is high. Please don't revert anything yet. I'll continue tomorrow but I'm on the case properly now. I still think the outlook of the mid section needs addressing for tone and will continue tomorrow. Werethere really no negative reviews towards her performances in these films. Although I get the impression around 2003 she was recieving amazing reviews ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 21:58, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes I see, nominations were after but you removed the work I had done with rmeoving the colons and sorting grammar. I've addressed that now. I have to go now, Please don't go undoing everyting. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 22:04, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

If I edit it closely and fully, really readin and working on all of it I really can't see how it could get turned out particularly if there are several other copy editors on the case. I think I'm as good a writer as anybody on the wiki. I've written several FA's before and my writing has generally been well praised. I know it can be done.

Not nice of me? Well think what you like of me. You know I would never change something out of spite. Using rollback wasn't intentional I've got into the habit of using it. I'm actually trying to help your FA here mate ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 22:12, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 22:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Discussion for article improvement of Zinta

Well at present it seems like editors have had a mixed reaction to it already. If you think I am wasting my time bothering to edit then I won't touch it, genuinely I'm trying to help out a friend and an article which is virtually there and wouldn't like to see it rejected and you disappointed after the hard work you've done. I really think it can be improved that bit more grammar wise and structually which is what the concerns seem to mostly be about now. Given that I have a great deal of work to do on here, I am trying to help you ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 08:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC) "After the release of this film, Zinta was recognised for her versatility as an actress;[2][12] commended for work portraying a wide range of characters in Kya Kehna, Sangharsh and Chori Chori Chupke Chupke,[2] and credited with establishing a new image for leading actresses in Bollywood.[3][24][25]". Now you have used the same reference twice within a few words. Completely unnecessary . Recognized? COmmended? Credited? Versatility as an actress all in one sentence???? Also is there no other actress in Bollywood who has had gritty roles of late that represent a new kind of Hindi film heroine? Is Zinta the pioneer? The only actress who has displayed this? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 08:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I can see I made a few slight mistakes in trying to address it as most of the other copy editors have. If I was assured that it would pass FA trust me I wouldn't even touch it. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 08:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

This is a problematic sentence. Not only are you using the same reference in just a few words but you are basically saying the same thing twice and the tone is far too gushing at the same time with all those claims in one sentence. Recognizing her versatility as an actress is exactly the same thing as critics attributing her portrayal of a wide range of characters. It just isn't right. There should be two claims -that critics recognized her versatility in playing a wide range of characters and that her roles were quite symbolic in that they contributed to a new perception of a Hindi film heroine.

The content other than this so far is OK so far but I still wonder why the positive comments are stacked highly in her favour with very few negative comments in there. Surely there must be negative reviews for many of the films? The times I read about her film and that she was "praised" for her performance and Taran said she was "wonderful and sexy" if I'm completely honest I think is too much. I would like to see some of these replaced with quotes that say more about her character and portrayal rather than saying that she was wonderful. I'm certain critics must have commented neutrally on her characters but if you exmine most of the quotes they keep saying that she looks great and is wonderful rather than how she addressed the roles etc.

The concern about over use of commas is a valid one, so I'll try to address that first ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 09:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC) ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 08:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Quotes such as "Zinta, the most interesting young actress of her generation, is her usual lively self" for instance for me does nothing encyclopedically. For me the quote should contribute something encyclopedically too in addition to general response to the performances. Very few quotes do this ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 09:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

This sentence seems right to me:

"After the release of this film, critics recognized her versatility as an actress and attributed her roles in Kya Kehna, Sangharsh and Chori Chori Chupke Chupke as contributing to new perception of a Hindi film heroine".

Well you need to trust me. I haven't got time to sit around discussing each sentence. That sentence flows much better which the whole article should ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 09:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, just ask him to read our discussion so he is more filled in ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 09:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Hereis a quote from Taran "Preity Zinta tries hard to do what Karisma Kapoor successfully did in David's movies and she is just okay". I noticed you didn't include comments like this ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 09:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes I ahppen to agree with you on that one and also Taran is used far too much. However I would try to find some negative reviews in the Times of India or something for some of her other films to balance it out a bit. I'm really not getting the impression here you think much of my ideas ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 09:43, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Well yes it does strike me as odd that her reviews seem to appear almost unaminously very good. There aren't too many actors in the world which don't get the odd negative comment about their performances. From a western viewpoint you can see why I might question this. Well you can't obviously because you are an Indian living in Australia!! lol. Although Tony has withdrawn his oppose, he hasn't explained why it has improved and stated the case as to why it qualifies as an FA has he? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 09:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm amazed how closely you care about every tiny detail in this article. This FA really means so much to you doesn't it!! I love the quote "To be brave is not to be fearless. It is when you fear and you get over it, then you can be called brave. I am human. It is not that I fear nothing. But getting over a fear is a continuous process and I have been successful so far". Thats beautiful isn't it. The bottom sections look very much the same way as when I last edited it which is good to see. The article is very good overall I think ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 10:50, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes that is such a wise old quote almost something like an ancient greek philosopher would say. The personal life section which was once the poorest now appears to be one of the strongest sections. Good catch on finding those quotes! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 10:54, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes I know. Just remember that I will always help you when you ask me, particularly as I also care for something that means a lot to you. Part of the reason why I haven't edited the article in months is because the situation can get quite stressful if each others edits are reverted and it can affect how we interact generally. I must have removed about 15 commas from the article now. I think it is much improved and aside from those minor issues I said about earlier I can't see why anybody would strongly oppose it. But who knows what people's idea of an FA is? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 11:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll leave it now and give it a full read again tonight. Just one thing though - what would you say about joining some of the paragraphs in the main film career section. E.g 2007 could all go in one paragraph. Do you think it is best to cover each year in one paragraph? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 11:18, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Just a though. How about finding an image of her on stage. We could use an image in that section of her. If you could find a free image I can crop it if necessary. Do you have one we could use from India FM? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 11:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Also how about finding a more beautiful screenshot from

here

One that really shows her face clearly and the pain she is in, in the film which demostrates her acting abilities better than the existing one. How about the one of her and the old woman with khan symbolically in the background. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 11:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll upload one or two possibilities and let me know what you think. Whatever is decided the others can be deleted. I'll do it now ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 11:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

OK heres the choice Image:KHNH2.jpg‎ or Image:KHNH1.jpg‎ or Image:KHNH4.jpg‎, . A close more intimate image of her in the role would be better -remember I can crop and alter it so it won't look as widened. Which ever you decide I'll delete them and make a smaller PX image and crop it accordingly ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 11:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I quite like the Image:KHNH2.jpg as there is a full frontal view of her face and you can visualize her acting better ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 11:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll have a quick play around with images if thats OK. See some combinations and how they look ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 11:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC) That widescreen image of the tear is too wide if you catch my drift. Could you find another example of it? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh no not really but otherwise I think the original image looks btter, because remember that our mission is to add image which will provide critical commentary on the film and its contents so that is. We see style and mood - tearjerker, location - New York, dram etc., Shahid • ^Talk2me 12:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

The distant view near the bridge was good but it didn't capture her face and close up emotions, in fact you couldn't really see her properly. As it is now I think the image of her profile which looks very sad stands in contrast to the other picture and in a way demostrates her diversity as an actress in those two shots alone. What confuses me in the earlier picture though is she is dancinng yet is a troubled teenage mother. As it is now I think those adjustments make a big difference ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the article looks super now. I've replaced the main image. Don't panic it is a tidier crop. You're probably not happy with it but I think it looks nicer ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:43, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Thats because you probably have your images set at 180px as standard. I have mine set at 300px ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:44, 8 May 2008 (UTC) By jove your're a fuss pot! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Ask John what he thinks about the newest screenshot. I'm trying to think encyclopedically here in terms of understanding facial emotion ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:48, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Oh. LOL PLease shut up!!!!!!!! Stop whining. Your're like an old nanny with a zimmer frame. Is anything ever right with you? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll be visiting you in a old people's home soon enough. Would you like a Werther's Original dear? Cup of tea for the old dear? I'll have to start calling you Betty or Doris or something ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Hehehe. What about Mavis or Ethel? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC) One last thing. I would move the 2004 image of her with the award to the bare part of the article in the film career section. I think that image looks better there as it is related to her career. The gap without the KANK image now looks really bare. I would then put Image:Zinta IIFA 06.jpg in the last section then as it pictures her with people and photpgrapher sin the background and is more appropriate I think ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Mmm screenshots should be kept as limited as possible particularly when we have free replacements. I thought the 2004 image of her with the award would be OK in the film career section. Can I try it and then see what the others think later? If not we'll see if any of the others would agree to finding another screenshot that does more encyclopedically. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:17, 8 May 2008 (UTC) I've added an image of Zinta with AMitabh in her first english film. I think it does much to demonstrate the difference in appearance in that film and how her career has progresssed to date ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:24, 8 May 2008 (UTC) I've moved the image down so it corresponds with the text OK mate? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC) The image is right next to the paragraph which it should be. The KANK image as beautiful as it was didn't convey anything encyclopedically about the film. Now if you can find an up to date screenshot which gives some useful information suggest it. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC) What on earth are you doing. Good one Shahid. Now the image is moved back to where The Hero is being discussed. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Oh yes I absoutely love that image but I am trying to think encyclopedically. The one thing I have a problem with now is the first image of her as a teenage mother fighting social prejudice. You;d expect her to be brandishing a baseball bat at pimps, rather she is smiling sweetly and dancing. I'm not certain that is does much to enhance the reader's understanding of the article - the text and image seem to give conflicting ideas about the film ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh I'm sorry. Am I not permitted to state my thoughts and discuss articles with other editors too? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Very strange, Considering she is a pregnant teenage mother fighting society they look a loving, friendly and happy bunch at Image:Kyakehna.jpg. That poster looks about as different as you'd expect a film which deals with such issues as possible ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:36, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Now you see why I try to stay away from FA candidacies and discussing stressful FA candicacy articles with other editors. It seems like an awful amount of time and effort just to please other editors and have an article tagged as an FA. Its like a different wikipedia to me, everything is so negative when most of the other articles are far worse, as is sitting around discussing and bitching about other editors at ANI and wiki lawyering and all that. Takes all the fun out of it, but as I said I'm glad to help out an amigo with such an exasperating article that still hasn't reached its obvious destination. I admire how you have stuck it out and dealt with its issues for so long and have gone out of your way to improve it. Best wishes ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC) OK. It needs something though. Regards ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Yes it looked so but could you add that reference. The part about it being the most expensive film of all time and advanced stunts should be mentioned to put it in its context to give an understanding of what knid of a film she appeared in, even if you didn't eleaborate on its response .

Great prospect, it seems

Now I think Zinta is gonna make it :)--Dwaipayan (talk) 19:13, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Commas in Preity Zinta

Hey there, I see that you have worked hard on this issue but I think the exact grammatical point is eluding you. I had to fix a couple commas you removed in error. For now, it might be best to let an editor more versed in English grammar to check and remove commas. I have already switched to support (pending a sourcing issue) but I will continue to scan the text for misc errors. Keep up the great work - I really enjoyed reading the article and I will be checking out some of her films. --Laser brain (talk) 15:13, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

(ec) It's no problem. I think this one just needed a little push to make it over the hill so I am glad to help. I removed "tearjerker" because I don't feel it is a very encyclopedic term, but if you feel it is important to understanding the concept then I don't have a problem with it. --Laser brain (talk) 15:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Well somebody else can check the comma issue. Its not always obvious. Somebody needs to check the box office performance of Hero: Love Story of a Spy and whether it lost money as claimed. It does seem peculiar though that the only guy in the UK who got 100% in his Shakespeare A-level exam isn't acquainted with the english language ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

No, you did a fine job. Commas are sometimes a subjective matter. Thanks for your help. --Laser brain (talk) 15:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

It can get quite a tricky one and sometimes you miss one. Even more so on a computer screen text obviously looks much different than paper and you haven't got those lines to support you lol! I would recommend a random editor checks it fully for punctuation and structure to make sure it is done. Thanks also for your comments Laser ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:36, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Mr. Shahid I've found a BBC source where it says The Hero was the most expensive Hindi film ever produced Here. Is this true? COuld you re add this and find a film review about it. cheers ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree also but where is there a source for this? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Baldy had it planned ready and waiting! I've added "Despite being the third highest grossing film in India that year, such were the phenomenally high costs of production that it never succeeded in recovering its expenditure at the box office". You'll need to add a reference for BOI as third and that is failed ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:12, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Well it shouldn't have too much coverage I agree, but you can't ignore that it actually was 3rd highest grossing film of the year. If you just say it failed at the box office, then people will think it earned nothing at all. I think the earlier was fine ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it reads better as it is. I've cut down that sentence from before but its needs another reference to demonstrate failure. Bear with me a moment, I'm adding the tribune reference ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:32, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Agreed thats all that needs to change. I've added two references now. I'd like to know later what surpassed it was it is KANK? or Dhoom 2? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:36, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Done. Now lets forget about The Hero!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I really think the article looks like an FA now visually even without reading it properly don't you? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:40, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Well yes I agree, I do pick up things on my travels on here certainly, given that most people in the UK have never even heard of those let alone know they were top grossers. I'm feeling a lot happier about the article now than yesterday. I am praying that the hard work and difficulties we've had today and yesterday (and of course over the months) will pay off! It would be good to get some fresh comments coming in on the article though ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah looks like those commons the removed images aren't ready to use yet according to Bollywood Dreamz. Looks like they'll have to wait a few days ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 16:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes I'm done for now too. Oh I still managed to start about 10 articles earlier LOL in between edits. People will find anything imaginable wrong with it, but I don't know about you but I feel the article has developed very well and is an asset to wikipedia regardless of what they think. Things can be pretty dangerous when people start opposing because of vendettas they have against other editors. Best regards -hey you ought to archive you talk page already. probablyI;ve now sent you 3000 messages! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 17:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Peace man

I can see why you want any comment on the FA to seem completely detached, if this will make you happier. I can also see that you feel so strongly about the FA that you don't want anything going wrong or any "skeletons in the closet" as genuinely trying to help as they are so to speak. I can also see this is why you have asked me today not to discuss it to people. I seriously doubt you would have tried to ask me not to speak to other otherwise. One of my pet hates along with pokemon is somebody telling me what or what not do to and I tend to snap at anybody immediately, and I mean anybody, who I perceive doing this. Don't hold asking one excellent editor to offer some thoughts on how to improve the article against me. I was only trying to help improve the article further by having "fresh eyes" look at the article which Tony or somebody suggested. Saludos ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 19:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Professor Snape? I'll Hiss and Spit I'll Eat Your Liver With Some Fartha Beans And A Nice Chianti I'm Not One Bit Like a Serpent Severus Snape Sarvagnya?? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 10:13, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

What a grade A knobend. You think it was Sarvangya or a vandal whose edits you keep reverting?? I'm lucky I got your message as I've attracted the Coren Bot which is tagging all my new articles I've been adding and sending me a message every second. i have to keep rollbacking it. If you come across my user page any time and see a bot message by Coren bot please remove it!! Best regards ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 12:49, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I know I said this on the nomination page. He has such as weak argument. Sorry we had a few troubles yesterday. Spending all day editing that article is not a good idea but I wanted to ensure it improved. i restored the original image last night as you requested you may have noticed. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 13:00, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:KMG

Now, now..this is a real mix-up. I was misled my List of highest-grossing Bollywood films (see the "unadjusted for inflation'). However, what about Krrish? Special appearance does not count I guess.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

have e-mailed you. check mail.--Dwaipayan (talk) 09:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

oh yes of course restore.--Dwaipayan (talk) 10:25, 9 May 2008 (UTC)