User talk:Slazenger/Archives/2014/March

Ossory

Hi, I recently edited a page on the Kingdom of Ossory, which was halted due to lack of citations. I would offer many citations, but I don't know how to do that. In my academic training, the history of Ossory was one of my foci. I'm just not adept in using Wikipedia properly to understand how citations are made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.252.17.39 (talk • contribs) 13:36, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

• I have reverted the article to how you had it and I will do my best to help give you the tools to make the article succeed. A few notes and pages for you to check out: WP:RS, WP:VERIFY. and WP:CITE. Those three links should give you all the information you need to help cite things properly and allow you to enrich the article on Ossory. Additionally, my main concern with your addition is the length of the section on Kings and how you have it organized at the moment. See WP:EMBED and WP:L for how to properly include lists in Wikipedia articles. Lastly, there is currently another article dedicated to the Kings of Ossory: see Kings of Osraige. My suggestion would be to remove the list of kings you've entered in the article and instead work on this additional article with the kings. It is linked within the article on the Kingdom of Ossory. Please don't hesitate to seek me out for advice and guidance at any step along the way. I'll keep an eye on the article and lend assistance where I can. You're the expert on Ossory, I'm the expert on (many aspects of) Wikipedia. Together we'll nail this. Regards and happy editing, --Slazenger (Contact Me) 04:45, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! You're very helpful. It's quite late where I am and I will be heading to bed soon, so this will be an ongoing project as time permits. Some questions for today: 1) how do you link to something that might have multiple names? 2) What exactly does a vertical slash (|) do in a linked word? 3) Should there be a separate page for the kings of Ossory? Can they be combined? I will remove the historic kings list for the time being, to focus on the more general rise and fall of the kingdom through certain leaders. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.252.17.39 (talk) 04:58, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

• I numbered your questions for ease of response. 1) If you talking about an internal link (where square brackets are used), there should only be one name for any person/place/etc. If you're talking about external links, you may have to go further into detail for me to respond to that. 2) In internal links when you are attempting to link to a page... you use [[xxxx]] to link to it. That will include a clickable link to another Wikipedia page and it will be named exactly as the article appears. If you want to link to that article but want the clickable link to read something other than what the name of the article is...for example you want to link to the article on Kings of Osraige but want to have a sentence like "And all of the kings were descendants..." with the word "king" being the link, you would use [[Kings of Osraige|kings]] and then the link would be word "kings". 3) Given the length of the list of kings and due to the fact that the article has already been established with a list of kings, I would say that's where the list should remain. Certain kings that may have had a huge impact can certainly be mentioned in the article on the Kingdom, however. Hope that answers everything! --Slazenger (Contact Me) 05:09, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello again. Although this is a different IP address, I am the same "Ossory expert" you chatted with the other night, as seen above. I'm still learning how to properly edit Wikipedia and cite, but its coming along. I added a part about Ossory's "Notable Saints", as a number of Ireland's major saints have either worked in or come from Ossory. Citations will be forthcoming. Please restore the Notable Saint paragraph, as Ossory's saints are historically more important and had a larger impact on the region and its history than even the former kings. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.10.150.107 (talk) 22:26, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Additionally, Ossory also features in a several popular computer games. And lastly, as the kingdom eventually fractured amidst competing rulers, it is difficult to say with certainty when exactly the "kingdom" was disestablished. This could be as early as 1194, when the last king of Ossory proper was installed, or as late as 1537, when the last man who could claim the throne of Ossory (but who only held onto a small portion of northern territory) eventually submitted formally to King Henry VIII of England. So expect more edits from me at either of these two IP addresses regarding the Ossory page. When I learn how to properly cite, I will load this page with a plethora of citations and hyperlinks to outside pages. In the mean time, I've been linking like crazy to other relevant historical pages on wikipedia. Believe me when I say, I am an expert on Ossory. Ri Osraige (talk) 22:39, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Kingdom of Ossory

Refer to ongoing conversation above. Requests to restore "Notable Saints" paragraph.

Dear Slazenger

I'm being screamed at by Wikipedia admins about my CMS page. Please look at my talk page.

I reported an admin (DMacks) for blanking my page on CMS. His reason was because of an old discussion on deleting the article. I was creating this article to fix the problems listed in the deletion discussion, but once I confronted him I got shouted at by two admins. I'm not sure what to do please help.

Note that I reverted DMacks' blanking. Look at the revision history for it: Cockeysville Middle School — Preceding unsigned comment added by CatcherStorm (talk • contribs) 23:23, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

• Issue resolved by all involved parties. --Slazenger (Contact Me) 23:22, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done - --Slazenger (Contact Me) 23:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Kindly stop all criminal harassment, or else a police report will be lodged against you.

Kindly re-read Wikipedia's "No Personal Attack" policy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks

   Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

   — Eleanor Roosevelt

Kindly stop all criminal harassement, or else a police report will be lodged against you. This is your first and final warning.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.79.87.53 (talk • contribs) 00:52, 6 March 2014

 Done - --Slazenger (Contact Me) 00:47, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Ossory

Hello Slazenger, I find myself in a tough situation with the Ossory page. Two users in particular are continuously deleting my edits, making progress difficult without getting into an edit war. I am new to this, and don't know the ropes: how to proceed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ri Osraige (talk • contribs) 22:37, 3 March 2014 (UTC) Ri Osraige (talk)

• Hey! Glad to see that you're back editing. You're going to want to discuss the edits and things you're adding on the article's talk page and invite the other editors to participate until you reach consensus. See this: WP:AN3, WP:DR, and WP:DRR if that isn't productive. That way another third party can become involved in an official capacity. Hope that helps! --Slazenger (Contact Me) 23:14, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done - --Slazenger (Contact Me) 02:52, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Mufaddal Saifuddin

May participate at talk page if you have any value addition.--Md iet (talk) 06:46, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

• I have nothing of value that I can bring to the article, as I have no knowledge of the subject matter nor of the project itself. There don't appear to be any discussions of policy, but rather pointed discussions about the subject. Good luck in the resolution. --Slazenger (Contact Me) 14:54, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done - --Slazenger (Contact Me) 14:54, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism

I never vandalized anything? I am in school server on an iPad, it could have been someone else, so why am I getting this message?

It's likely that someone was using your school's network to vandalize Wikipedia. Your best option is to make an account and use that for editing. --Slazenger (Contact Me) 03:42, 28 March 2014 (UTC)