User talk:TheCeej

August 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on Blu-ray Disc. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. —Locke Cole • t • c 01:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT BY THE CEEJ: There were no personal attacks on other editors. That was in your imagination. I was merely correcting a common misconception about BRD originally brought forth by a Sony typo. Come on. It's common sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheCeej (talk • contribs) 2008-08-01T02:30:05

No, it wasn't my imagination. In this edit you made you inserted the following text: "BD is commonly used as an incorrect acronym for Blu-Ray disc by the same people who call International House Of Pancakes IP or Kentucky Fried Chicken KC. You know. Morons who leave out letters because they're too lazy to speak or write." Calling other people (editors or readers) "morons" is a personal attack. Please don't do that again. As to the misconception, you're welcome to make the changes you propose as soon as you provide a reliable source. Otherwise the changes you're trying to make constitute original research. Also, when replying, please sign your comment using ~~~~. —Locke Cole • t • c 04:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT BY THE CEEJ: First of all, it's common knowledge that, when you shorten a group of words to an acronym, the only initials you leave out are for insignificant words such as a, an, and, and the. And, it's common knowledge that, in such a situation, a hyphenated word counts as two words. Ergo, the only acceptable way to shorten Blu-ray disc, is BRD. It doesn't matter what Sony says. If they say it's BD, they're wrong. It's a typo.

Second, I never insulted anyone in my first edit. I was making a point. You can spin it however you want. In my second edit, you couldn't even possibly have spun it that way at all, even if you were James Carville. I find it insulting that you undid all my work twice because I don't have a source for common knowledge. I guess I need a source if I say fire is hot or water is wet, don't I?

Third, I don't know what your multiple tildes are with which you expect me to sign my post here, but I'm sure that you can tell what I'm trying to say. You want to ban me from Wikipedia? Fine. I don't care. Because, you know what else is common knowledge? That Wikipedia is an unreliable source for information because anyone can edit it. Just look. Some moron changed all my BRD's back to BD's twice. And yes. That was a personal attack on you. If you're too stupid to realize how the English language works, I give up on you, your moronic editors, and your moronic readers. I hope you all drop dead off an e bola-infested quicksand volcano cliff. And if you want to ban me, I don't care. I'm not going to lose a bit of sleep over it. I never liked you to begin with. All I wanted to do was enlighten the stupid masses, but apparently you're all unenlightenable. I hate you and Wikipedia. And here are your four stupid tildes.TheCeej (talk) 04:58, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whether or not you agree with the acronym isn't really relevant. People call it BD, not BRD, according to the sources in the article. It doesn't matter whether I agree with you or not, Wikipedia tries to only publish verifiable and reliable information.

As to your second point, it was a personal attack: whether you were trying to make a point is besides the point. Please don't take it as an insult to have your work undone, it happens fairly frequently on Wikipedia especially when someone is introducing information that isn't reliably sourced.

No, I do not want to "ban" you from Wikipedia. I'm unable to do so even if that were my intent. However, an admin may block you from editing if you engage in further personal attacks (as you've done above). I'm just trying to help you to understand how Wikipedia works and what's acceptable. If there's something you don't understand or that I can help you with, please let me know as I'd hate to think you wouldn't want to contribute in the future. By the way, regarding the four tildes, here's something that explains how/why those work. —Locke Cole • t • c 07:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If I were sober when I typed that, it probably would have said the same thing but in a nicer way and sans the personal attacks. The one thing I don't understand is that I had to do half an hour's worth of work each time I made my edits, but you just got to hit one button to undo it all. I wish you had to do the same work I did. It would make you think twice about undoing it. As far as Wikipedia goes, I rarely visit and never trust it. I often make fun of it with friends and strangers using the sarcastic line, "You have to trust Wikipedia. Anyone can edit it and that's the only way to keep it a truly reliable source." I was doing your readers a service, albeit an unwanted one. As a thanks, I get a, "we don't believe you." Fine. Whatever. It's not like I ever thought highly of the Wikipedia community to begin with. My next course of action is to send letters to the BDA and Sony explaining to them that it's okay to admin BD was a mistake. You know corporations. They make a mistake and are afraid to admit that's not the way they originally meant it. As far as Wikipedia goes. I'm done with it. I give up on it. There's no hope in Wikipidea ever being a valid source for information. On top of your questionable veracity for the majority of your articles, your site is buggy as hell. It almost rivals MySpace. So, thank you for whatever it is you do here, but I wash my hands of you.

EDIT: I linked to this page here, so the people on the site that I admin can see this.TheCeej (talk) 17:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Explanation of BD

Alright dude, here's the thing, and I'm just going to lay it out there: You're being a dick. Its really not cool to call this guy out on your disgusting little excuse for a website. Besides, he's not even an administrator. Here at Wikipedia, ideal contributors do all they can to keep the articles as informative and as correct as possible, and therefore all experienced wikipedians have the ability to revert pages, not just admins.

Also, at Wikipedia, sometimes the way you think something should happen, either according to grammar or common knowledge, is ignored for the sake of keeping it accurate. Sony, who was the primary researcher in Blu-ray, has named that the acronym be BD, because "Blu-ray" is really meant to be treated as one word. This is not comparable to Grand Theft Auto or International House of Pancakes in anyway (Note the hyphen in Blu-ray). So, whether or not the general rule is to acronym all key letters, the Blu-ray trademark references explicitly state the technology is acronymed "BD", "BD-ROM", etc, and therefore it is what is posted on Wikipedia.

At this time, I have to warn you about making other Wikipedia users look like idiots (even though by the looks of your site, no one will ever see your little rant anyway). If you don't like the way we operate at Wikipedia, then I'd have to suggest you stop contributing, stop wasting your time, and most importantly stop wasting ours.

Thanks! W IKIPEE DIO 00:28, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The funny thing is, you're wasting your time more than I am. Everything you do while signed into Wikipedia is a waste of time. I'm going to stop wasting my time. Are you going to stop wasting yours?TheCeej (talk) 00:49, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another thing to consider: it was called "Blu-ray Disc" because it's not possible to trademark common English words (otherwise it would have been "Blue-ray" or "Blue ray"). By connecting the words together ("Blu" and "ray") they created an actual brand name that could be trademarked. With that in mind the acronym for Blu-ray Disc is BD. See Trademark distinctiveness for more information. And for what it's worth, I don't consider time spent here a waste of time simply because creating a free accessible encyclopedia is a worthy use of my time. Access to knowledge should be free and Wikipedia is doing great at that. Perhaps you'll reconsider at some point once you understand more of how Wikipedia works. —Locke Cole • t • c 02:21, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]