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Portuguese conquest of Goa[edit]

Hi. Could you provide the full reference for the Rodrigues Costa (2008) book/paper? I can't find it. Thanks. --regentspark (comment) 21:34, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Greetings, friend. The book I refer is a Portuguese edition explaining the conquest of Goa in detail, and is on the bottom of the respective page. If you wish for any information in particular, I'd be glad to help. Regards, Crenelator (talk) 18:33, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Got it. Thanks. --regentspark (comment) 20:13, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

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Capitalization of section headings[edit]

In the future, please only capitalize the first letter of a heading, unless it is a proper noun.
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Baishaling Incident[edit]

You added a bit about a black Mozambican to this article. I've reverted it as unsourced. What is your source? Srnec (talk) 00:08, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Greetings, thanks for letting me know. The story is featured in several pages of the Portuguese wiki and well known in Macau. As soon as I have the source with me I'll put it up on the article. Crenelator (talk) 18:37, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

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I was not aware, and I will in the future. Thank you for the heads-up Crenelator (talk) 11:26, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Capture of Malacca (1511)[edit]

Hi Crenalator. Thank you for the thanks. That is a nice looking article, which I note that you made a lot of input to. Good work. You seem to have access to some good sources. It seemed to me to need a bit of a copy edit, so I just did it. Let me know if you think I overdid it anywhere. If you know of other articles in need of a copy edit, do let me know. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:24, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Not overdone at all, it reads much better now, thanks. I did realize at one point that I had better sources than can usually be found in English on such a fascinating subject, so I decided to put them to good use for everyone's benefit. My native language isn't English though, so I appreciate all your help revising that and other articles. Crenelator (talk) 17:02, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

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Battle of Diu - Part of the Ottoman Portuguese war[edit]

I apreciate the comment in the article. But the Ottomans were indeed present in that battle. Check the sources presented for more info. There is a large ammount of valid sources confirming the Turkish presence in the battle. SirPortuga (talk) 17:28, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

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Battle of Barawa[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Barawa&diff=837713117&oldid=837685637

Can you tell me where exactly on https://archive.org/stream/daasiadejoodeb21barr#page/32/mode/2up it says there were 24 dead and 60 wounded? I don't see it. Alexis Jazz (talk) 15:15, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, most certainly. It says:
"E foram tantos os imigos que alli perecêram que se não puderam contar, e dos nossos té quarenta e duas pessoas, e feridos sessenta e tantos: e nestes mortos entraram hum batel té dezoito delles, que soçobrou vindo para a nau de Tristão da Cunha carregado de fato do esbulho da Cidade, [...]" .
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"And so many enemies perished there that they were uncountable, and ours up to forty two people, and wounded over sixty: these dead included up to eighteen on a boat, which capsized carrying spoil from the city to the carrack of Tristão da Cunha [...]".
So about 42 people in total died, 24 in the action itself and 18 in an accident afterwards. Since the article is about the battle itself, I included only those who died in the action, but if you feel it's relevant to include the rest I will do so. Best regards, Crenelator (talk) 18:34, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Just checking. As for "but things should be settled now", yeah, things are settled alright. Alexis Jazz (talk) 22:49, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
I suspected that. I don't know how Wiki confirms sockpuppets accounts but I'm glad it does. I wish you a good evening. Crenelator (talk) 23:14, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

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Fernão Lopes[edit]

Hello Wareno, thanks for improving the Fernão Lopes article. I have one question. you write: "he set sail for Portugal, having been offered amnesty by King Manuel I" (1515). As far as I know he got a letter from João III in the 1520s, when he was on St Helena for years already. I couldn't find anything about en earlier offer of amnesty. Do you have a source for me? Greetings Maelcum (talk) 12:18, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello @Maelcum:, I apologize for such a late reply, unfortunately I haven't been on wikipedia for a while. To clarify, Fernão Lopes got an amnesty from King Manuel, which is why he left India to Portugal in the first place, and stopping on St. Helena on the way, stayed there. Afterwards, King John III sent someone to bring him to Lisbon. The source where you can find the details is The Other Exhile: The Remarkable Story of Fernão Lopes, the Island of St. Helena and a Paradise Lost. Hope this helps. Best regards, Wareno (talk) 23:34, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Hello @Wareno:, thank you for the information. I hate google books omitting pages. That makes no sense, to publish books with parts missing arbitrarily. Anyway, I heard about that book during my research. I found only scarce sources from Lopes' times (Correia's Lendas da India, De Barros' Decadas and the Comentarios de Albuquerque) and none of them mentions that earlier amnesty. I wonder how the author of that book from 2017 can tell the story so very detailed. I wonder what his sources were and I'm a bit skeptical about that book. Have you read it completely? Seems like I have to get it somewhere.
I wrote a blog article about Lopes (in german), and i would like to write the german Wikipedia article about him, that's why I'm asking. It's hard to tell facts from mere stories, I'm not sure yet how to integrate that part of the story … anyway, thanks again. Regards Maelcum (talk) 02:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Dear @Maelcum: I do happen to own a copy of the book and I recommend it, because it seems to be the most detailed biography of Fernão Lopes available that I'm aware of, and it's a fascinating life story. Details about Lopes' life are scarce, but the author makes use of essential chronicles such as Lendas da Índia by Gaspar Correia, Décadas da Ásia by João de Barros and Diogo do Couto, História do Descobrimento e Conquista da Índia pelos Portugueses by Fernão Lopes de Castanheda, Crónica do Felicíssimo Rei Dom Manuel by Damião de Goes,Commentaries of the Great Afonso de Albuquerque by Brás de Albuquerque and documents in Portuguese archives to provide a more comprehensive narrative sorrounding his life. In case you cannot access the link (because Google's policy of omitting random parts of books is ridiculous), it says the following:
What did it now matter if Albuquerque was dead? But in fact it did matter and greatly so: the new governor [Lopo Soares de Albergaria], who had been in India for three months already, carried with him a royal pardon for the Portuguese renegades, including Fernão Lopes. It was not a coincidence that the pardon immediately followed Albuquerque's death for, alive, he would probably have refused to implement it. But now, Lisbon announced, all had been forgotten and Lopes was free to return to Portugal to be reunited with the wife and son whom he had not seen for ten years.
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Albuquerque had died on 16 December, and once the pardon had been given the next departing ships needed to be away before the end of the favourable north-east monsoon winds, which was in March. Although there had been no provision from the garrison for his return to Portugal, as would normally have befitted a fidalgo, the sources tell us that the King covered the costs of any renegade who wished to return to Lisbon. Historical records show that there were only two ships of the 1515 Lisbon fleet making the return journey in 1516 on which Lopes could have sailed. The first was the Sancta Maria da Serra and the otther was the Sancto António. We know that the Sancta Maria da Serra left India within days of Albuquerque's death, certainly before the end of December, and it is unlikely that Lopes would have been pardoned and able to depart so rapidly. A more accurate supposition points to the Sancto António, which set sail in early 1516 and arrived in Lisbon in November that year
Unfortunately, the author does not refer specifically where he got these particular pieces of information from. Ultimately though, my biggest criticism is that the author presupposes Lopes to have been a New-Christian even though he himself admits there's no evidence to support it, and I warn that it is an absurd claim because no Portuguese would have accepted to serve under his orders if he were. I hope this helps Wareno (talk) 18:12, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you again, @Wareno! So the story goes on with another plot twist … that's why I love history, it's like an open world text adventure. :) I will order that book and see where it takes me. Best Regards Maelcum (talk) 15:46, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
@Maelcum: It is indeed like an open world text adventure! The history of Portugal is full of such figures, like Fernão Mendes Pinto, António de Andrade, David Melgueiro and many others. Glad to have been of assistance. Wareno (talk) 19:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

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