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Lowell Bekker

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16-yearold musician who has only self-published his music. No reliable sources can be found. No reliable sources in the article except to say his song was played 22 times on-air. Prod was contested. Bgwhite (talk) 06:19, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bgwhite (talk) 06:20, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

CommentRadio station websites are included as reliable sources. For an article to be valid on Wikipedia, any artist who has received national airplay on mainstream radios is considered eligible, proved with the resourced. Bekker Records does not constitute self-publishing. --Beastphones (talk) 18:13, 10 September 2011 (UTC) beastphones

Comment Being played on-air 22 times by the local radio station isn't exactly national airplay. There are several radios stations listed, but they are owned by the same company, that uses the same website and the same database of artists.... Hehe, being played on the talk, country and classics sister-stations would be a coup. Bekker Records only artist is Lowell Bekker and is owned by him, that is self-publishing. Bgwhite (talk) 21:44, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

It isn't just local radio stations, even if they are all the same company that owns them. Bekker Records is owned by Natasha Bekker, with artists such as Jac Harper and others. I suggest to do your own research before concluding. --Beastphones (talk) 01:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

From all the radio links list in the article, "He is currently signed to co-founded Bekker Records". He is self-published to an independent record label. Bgwhite (talk) 03:04, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

CO-founded. Not owned. There's enough national airplay to be eligible for a Wikipedia article, you have no case. ;) --Beastphones (talk) 03:18, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

What other markets did it play in, and how can we verify that?   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 03:56, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

The power of google! I kid. There are several markets that the single has played in, such as New York, Los Angeles, Atlanta, Dallas, Miami (etc.) Even though, as discussed earlier, they're all owned by the same company, they all are eligible as national airplay. They're on each radio station website, which could be considered a valid source because they are not editable by the public nor the artist. They also are not social networking sites or other useless content. --Beastphones (talk) 03:59, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

• Delete per nom.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 03:54, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

What does that mean? --Beastphones (talk) 03:56, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

"per nomination" -- it means that he accepts the reasoning of the person who nominated the article for deletion. Antandrus (talk) 03:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree with the nominator's rationale for nominating the article for deletion.   — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 03:58, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

• I don't understand. This article complies with Wikipedia's rules for musician biographies. Bekker has received NATIONAL airplay. It's not just because he's important, but I believe this article should stay, because there is nothing wrong with it. Sure, it should be expanded over time with more sources, but it shouldn't be deleted immediately. WP:BAND "11. Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network." This clearly states he is eligible for an article. --Beastphones (talk) 04:00, 11 September 2011 (UTC)